PCLinuxOS Phoenix 2010 Final

[besonian]

Just adding my Thank you to Sproggy. I've been using Phoenix now on my main machine for about six months and it's wonderful. Stable, attractive, fast - a joy to work with. One question - the version I'm using is the ISO I downloaded in November last year. If I do a complete upgrade via Synaptic, will that bring me up to the equivalent of 2010.1? Or should I do a new install? (And if that's been asked elsewhere I apologize but I looked and didn't find). Thank you once more Sproggy, and power to the elbow of Joble!

[besonian]

Thank you ongoto. You sound however as though you're not 100% sure. Is that right or is it just how I'm interpreting it?

[Was_Just19]

2010 releases use the 2010 repository.

2007/2009 repository will be deleted soon according to a post I read from Tex.

There is no upgrade route from 2007/2009  to 2010 release.

A new install is required.

[besonian]

Many thanks, JohnBoy. I guess that's the answer. I've downloaded and burned the ISO and will try and do the new install later today. Looking forward to it.

[Was_Just19]

Many thanks, JohnBoy. I guess that's the answer. I've downloaded and burned the ISO and will try and do the new install later today. Looking forward to it.

Hope you like it   

[besonian]

Hello JohnBoy - well, I would like it, except one of the two programs which is vital to my work - Digikam - will not launch. When I try to launch it from the menu - it's not there. And via a terminal I get this -

digikam: error while loading shared libraries: libQtSql.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

The machine is MSI mobo, Sempron 3800+ dual core 64 CPU, 2gb memory, 500gb SATA drive.

I used Digikam for six months in the previous version of Phoenix and it worked faultlessly all that time. On the offchance that I'd got a screwed download or a bad burn, I downloaded the ISO once again and did another burn. The result is the same. And I've tried the install on another machine - Dell Inspiron 1520 laptop (1.8ghz CPU, 1gb memory, 160gb SATA drive) and again it's the same.

I know nowhere near enough to hazard a guess at what's happening, except is there some other dependency that Digikam needs that isn't either on the CD or in the repo. (And I've used both Heanet and the PASS server)?

Anybody got any thoughts? (Maybe I should start another thread on this??)

[Neal ManBear]

besonian,
When you see the .so in a lib name, as in libQtSql.so.4, use the Provided Packages search option in Synaptic to find it. In your case, the package needed is libqtsql4. Install or reinstall it. That should help.

[besonian]

Neal - many, many thanks. That's yet another thing I didn't know and do now! In fact I had to download half a dozen similar files before it launched - all QT4 components. If there are others like myself who use Digikam in one of these light DE's would it not be a very good idea to included them in the files necessary to Digikam? As far as I know there really is nothing like Digikam among the other photo management apps in the repos. Anyway, thank you again. I now go back to my main machine and do another re-install. Thank you again.

[besonian]

Sproggy. I guess, had it been possible, it might have crossed your mind to do that.  I think, even so, it might be a good idea to point out somehow to others who might hit the same problem, just what extra is needed. If, like me, you're still pretty green as far as Linux is concerned, it's not a solution you're likely to hit upon on your own. I might start a thread about that - would you (or Joble) have any objection?

[besonian]

Thanks Sproggy. Understood. I'll probably take up that suggestion. One of the things I have to contend with is that up until the arrival of KDE4 I'd always used KDE. But I really can't be hacking around with all KDE4's complexity. So I tried the lightweight DE's like LXDE and Xcfe and ended up with the latter which I love. By that time however I'd gone a long way down the road with apps like Digikam and Kjots - I had a whole lot of personal data wrapped up in them. And to my knowledge at least, the former of those is the only one in the repos that approaches a professional photo management app. That's why I feel - rightly or wrongly - that I need to import these KDE apps in. Outside of those two I'd have no need to. I wonder if others are in a like situation. Anyway, many thanks for you help on this.

[Joble]

besonian:  There already is a solution for what you propose, if you don't mind the size it takes up on your disk.  In kde just install task-xfce and you can get the xfce desktop environment from the sessions menu on the login screen.  As far as the Phoenix iso, no, I have plans to do anything like that.

[besonian]

Hi Joble. But that would presumably mean my first installing KDE4? And if I did that - apart from the fact that I've given it a good try right from the time it first came out to the latest version and I just don't get what it's about - what, if any, would be its advantage over what I'm doing now? Now I know what other things I need to get Digikam working in Xfce everything's going along very well. Should I be concerned about its stability, for example?

The other reason I just keep away from KDE4 is that I've made a number of converts to PCLOS over the last few years. They do little else but send emails. write a few letters etc. and look at their photographs- like about 90% of people who use computers I reckon, if truth be known. And if I showed them KDE4 and told them they'd soon have to upgrade to that, they'd go bezerk, throw up their hands in horror and very likely scuttle back to that other OS I weaned them off in the first place. I need to have an upgrade up my sleeve, and Xfce (and LXDE too) seem to me to be the way to go. 

[Joble]

Should I be concerned about its stability, for example?

 

Naw, I think you'll do fine.  I was just mentioning an easier way.  I've got almost all the task-desktops loaded on my netbook, I can log into any one of them whenever I want.  

[besonian]

Great. Then I'll continue as I am.