Thank you tschommer, that is where I am at, but, I don't see the "customize" theme that was in the first kde4, I want to use two different themes, such as "glassified" for my task bar and maybe "oxygen" for my clock and calendar, it could be that I still don't have a handle on this theme and widget and desktop thing yet. I went to the kde site and tried to follow their instructions about right clicking on the desktop and choosing customize, but I don't have that choice, although it did exist on the first kde4 on 2009.2, thanks for the reply.
Edit: Thanks Rudge, that is what I was looking for, I will never figure out this new kde, hopefully there will always be a Rudge or a tschommer to bail my butt out when I get into trouble, thanks, I will mark this solved.