Where is kate in kde4.4.1 ? Pclinux 2010-beta [Solved]

[hal8000]

Just trying pclinux 2010-beta and found kwrite is installed but not kate.

Also doesnt appear in the repositories in synaptic. Has kate been dropped
or replaced by another package?

[muungwana]

kate is part of kdesdk, do you have this package installed?

[hal8000]

Thanks a lot that brought kate in.

There is no description of kate against package kdesdk which is why I couldn't find it in synaptic.
Kde 4.4 is taking some getting used to

[muungwana]

kde4 packages are still being refined. I suspect these packages will be unbundled to their individual components when things settle down a bit.

can you modify the title of your thread and add "solved" to it?

[arjay]

Hi all

Found this thread after I just installed 2010 beta 1 and had same problem.  Tried to install kdesdk and it got bounced:

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[root@localhost ~]# apt-get install kate
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package kate
[root@localhost ~]# apt-get install -s kdesdk
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package kdesdk has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  task-kde4-minimal
E: Package kdesdk has no installation candidate

So I tried task-kde4-minimal with the -s option, but it does not offer Kate, just java and I am not sure I want/need this?:

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[root@localhost ~]# apt-get install -s task-kde4-minimal
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  java-1.6.0-sun java-1.6.0-sun-alsa java-1.6.0-sun-fonts java-1.6.0-sun-jdbc
  java-1.6.0-sun-plugin soprano-plugin-sesame2
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  java-1.6.0-sun java-1.6.0-sun-alsa java-1.6.0-sun-fonts java-1.6.0-sun-jdbc
  java-1.6.0-sun-plugin soprano-plugin-sesame2 task-kde4-minimal
0 upgraded, 7 newly installed, 0 removed and 0 not upgraded.
Inst java-1.6.0-sun-plugin (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown) []
Inst java-1.6.0-sun-alsa (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown) []
Inst java-1.6.0-sun-jdbc (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown) []
Inst java-1.6.0-sun-fonts (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown) []
Inst java-1.6.0-sun (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Inst soprano-plugin-sesame2 (2.3.71-2pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Inst task-kde4-minimal (4.3.95-1pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf java-1.6.0-sun-alsa (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf java-1.6.0-sun-jdbc (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf java-1.6.0-sun-fonts (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf java-1.6.0-sun (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf java-1.6.0-sun-plugin (1.6.0.18-3pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf soprano-plugin-sesame2 (2.3.71-2pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
Conf task-kde4-minimal (4.3.95-1pclos2010 Unknown:Unknown/Unknown)
[root@localhost ~]#

Can anyone advise?  I really prefer kate to kwrite but it's not enough to turn me off this great distro!!

EDIT - found that the correct package is task-kde4.  But that is bundled as 100's of files - I only wanted Kate.  Guess I'll wait until it is unbundled.

BTW - I used the repo speed test to setup sources list.  It asked me NOT to use ibiblio and offered this instead which is what I am using (came up as the fastest speed for Spain where I live).  Presumably all repos should contain the same files?

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# Package repository URL's

# Signed repositories have a [<key>] where <key> is the name of the key
# as it appears in vendors.list. If you remove it, no digital signature check
# will be made.

rpm http://gnustep.ethz.ch/mirror/pclinuxos/apt/ pclinuxos/2010 main updates nonfree kde4

# rpm http://ftp.nluug.nl/ibiblio/distributions/pclinuxos/apt/ pclinuxos/2010 main updates nonfree kde4

# rpm http://ftp.sh.cvut.cz/MIRRORS/pclinuxos/apt/ pclinuxos/2010 main updates nonfree kde4

# rpm http://ftp.ch.debian.org/mirror/pclinuxos/apt/ pclinuxos/2010 main updates nonfree kde4

# rpm http://ftp.vim.org/ibiblio/distributions/pclinuxos/apt/ pclinuxos/2010 main updates nonfree kde4


[muungwana]

i believe the package is called "kdesdk4". it is always better to install through synaptic because it is easier to know exact file names. installing from the terminal and you will have to know the exact name of the package you want to install in advance and some packages have names that are difficult to anticipate

ps:
always do "apt-get update" before doing anything else
be advised that this distro does not use "apt-get upgrade", only "apt-get dist-upgrade". Any use of the former will bork your install sooner or later

[arjay]

i believe the package is called "kdesdk4". it is always better to install through synaptic because it is easier to know exact file names. installing from the terminal and you will have to know the exact name of the package you want to install in advance and some packages have names that are difficult to anticipate

Thanks for replying so promptly - it is much appreciated.  I have a good feeling about this forum

As to your specific advice.  I used Synaptic and checked out kdesdk4.  It has dozens of packages listed as new/upgrades but no mention of anything that looks/sounds like Kate text editor??

ps:
always do "apt-get update" before doing anything else
be advised that this distro does not use "apt-get upgrade", only "apt-get dist-upgrade". Any use of the former will bork your install sooner or later

Wow - thanks for the heads up.  Never heard anything like this before.  I am so used to using terminal rather than fiddling around in synaptic (unless searching for a specific package).  Will have to get used to it.  BTW - doesn't really help to have Synaptic say "Mark all Upgrades".  Sounds rather like "apt-get upgrade to me!  For PCLOS perhaps it should say "Upgrade Distribution" or something

[Old-Polack]

i believe the package is called "kdesdk4". it is always better to install through synaptic because it is easier to know exact file names. installing from the terminal and you will have to know the exact name of the package you want to install in advance and some packages have names that are difficult to anticipate

Thanks for replying so promptly - it is much appreciated.  I have a good feeling about this forum

As to your specific advice.  I used Synaptic and checked out kdesdk4.  It has dozens of packages listed as new/upgrades but no mention of anything that looks/sounds like Kate text editor??

Trust me, it's in there.

[muungwana]

As to your specific advice.  I used Synaptic and checked out kdesdk4.  It has dozens of packages listed as new/upgrades but no mention of anything that looks/sounds like Kate text editor??

This part was addressed in the second and third responses in this thread

[arjay]

hey - I'm trusting - trust me I 'm trusting.  What else can a noob to PCLOS do

OK - I did this:

1. Opened Synaptic,  ran Reload and then searched for kdesdk4.

2. Found it and clicked on "Mark for Installation".  This listed over 100 files but nothing like Kate could I see.  So I backed out.

I don't really want to install all these other files in the hope that Kate is buried in there somewhere.....

I gotta be missing something here.  Philosophical question.  How do you know if you are missing something when you don't know what it is?

[arjay]

As to your specific advice.  I used Synaptic and checked out kdesdk4.  It has dozens of packages listed as new/upgrades but no mention of anything that looks/sounds like Kate text editor??

This part was addressed in the second and third responses in this thread

Sorry mate - didn't mean to, or want to, waste any more of your time. If that is the solution, I don't want to install over 100 files to unearth a text editor.  I can live without it for now.  I'll leave this as solved and get on with my life

[muungwana]

hey - I'm trusting - trust me I 'm trusting.  What else can a noob to PCLOS do

OK - I did this:

1. Opened Synaptic,  ran Reload and then searched for kdesdk4.

2. Found it and clicked on "Mark for Installation".  This listed over 100 files but nothing like Kate could I see.  So I backed out.

I don't really want to install all these other files in the hope that Kate is buried in there somewhere.....

I gotta be missing something here.  Philosophical question.  How do you know if you are missing something when you don't know what it is?

packages are still being refined and i suspect they will be unbundled when time allow. At the moment, you will either have to install the whole kdesdk4 package and get kate in the process or wait until they are unbundled and only install kate

[Old-Polack]

hey - I'm trusting - trust me I 'm trusting.  What else can a noob to PCLOS do

OK - I did this:

1. Opened Synaptic,  ran Reload and then searched for kdesdk4.

2. Found it and clicked on "Mark for Installation".  This listed over 100 files but nothing like Kate could I see.  So I backed out.

I don't really want to install all these other files in the hope that Kate is buried in there somewhere.....

I gotta be missing something here.  Philosophical question.  How do you know if you are missing something when you don't know what it is?

SDK stands for  Software Development Kit, so the extra files are there to aid in that endeavor. Mostly they are the devel packages for the individual applications, but other useful tools are in the package also. I particularly like Kompare, who's defined purpose is checking and generating diff patch files. I find it useful for comparing any two text files that represent different versions/rewrites of the same subject. I'm not a developer, but for more than 10 years I've always installed the various SDK packages, just to play around with the tools and see if I can find uses for them that are practical for me. For me, Kate and Kompare together justify installing the sdk package, even if I never use any of the rest of it.

You find out what you are missing by installing those things who's use you don't know, then playing with them. Unlike Windows, the applications are free, so it costs you nothing but time to explore them. That's part of the fun of using Linux; there's so much to discover. What you find use for, you keep and enjoy. What you have no use for, you uninstall to make room for more exploration.