[SOLVED][2010 - beta1] phonon lock up

[muungwana]

you can always reinstall when you get in too dip 

i build kde4 from source. I too had only pulse audio and removed pulse audio development package, rebuilding phonon and PA shown up last in the list instead of first and only option. This is, if you want to be adventurous. You can always wait for beta2 and install that if you dont want to dirty your hands.

[nzimas]

Will i really have to install beta2. Isn't it enough to keep rolling?

[muungwana]

you will have to reinstall the final when it comes out. People can update past beta2 if they already have beta1 installed. The correction with PA will be in beta2, since you are having issues with PA, i think it will be better if you install beta2 when it comes out to see if it will fix your issue.

remember, the final 2010 will have to be reinstalled so dont invest too much into these beta installs

[Old-Polack]

you will have to reinstall the final when it comes out. People can update past beta2 if they already have beta1 installed. The correction with PA will be in beta2, since you are having issues with PA, i think it will be better if you install beta2 when it comes out to see if it will fix your issue.

remember, the final 2010 will have to be reinstalled so dont invest too much into these beta installs

I beg to differ. If one wants to be of the greatest help testing betas, one should load it up with everything one would normally associate with their working desktop, and try to beat it to death. We want to find as many bugs as possible, and we can't do that if people treat their beta installation like a sissy. Whoop on that sucker and smack it around as hard as you can. We need to find any weaknesses, before it's possible to strengthen them.  

[nzimas]

Wondering where to grab the phonon source tarball from.
There are several versions listed at http://phonon.sourcearchive.com, but can't which one would be more suitable.
PCLOS uses 4.3.80. apparently. Can't find its source anywhere.

[muungwana]

phonon is currently hosted at: http://gitorious.org/phonon

[nzimas]

Even with export CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/usr set, i can't get Cmake to build and install on /usr/ instead of /usr/local
This way, how can i override the phonon package supplied by PCLOS?
Anyhow, i have managed to build and install phonon 4.4.0. Now i must find way to make the system pick it.

[muungwana]

when you are in the source folder type these commands(copy and paste them). The last one will ask you for your root's password.Log out and back after you have install it and see if anything changed

mkdir build && cd build
cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr  -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  . ..
make
su -c "make install"

[nzimas]

Thanks for the commands sequence.
Regrettably, nothing has changed.

I play a tune on Amarok, than a video off Youtube, then back to Amarok and it just hangs.
No Output devices but PA either.

This is as far as i can go for now, i guess.
Have seen some tips and tricks on a rather large thread at kde.org. None seemed too convincing.
Myriam Schweingruber, one of the main Amarok figures, told that it looks like a "system" issue (system meaning distro).

[muungwana]

did you remove all phonon packages in synaptic and made sure you did not have pulse audio development package installed? and restarted after you installed and check to see if there are other options other than PA in system settings?

what did the cmake command give you? i am curious to see what it reported on your system. Run it twice to make sure only the interesting part get reported

[nzimas]

Uninstalling libpulseaudio-devel drags many other packages, among which is kdesdk4 (where the one only Kate is )
It also uninstalls kdelibs4-devel and the qt dev libs as well.

Could get a bit more edgy and remove libpulseaudio-devel from the CLI through RPM, but that will generate broken deps.

[nzimas]

Well, after all couldn't resist getting rougher and rpm -e --nodeps libpulseaudio-devel all the way.
No more PA hauting my desktop and at last Phonon displays other Output Devices, mainly HDA Intel.
It worries me. however, the trouble one has to go through to get rid of this gangrene.
Until it isn made useful, it should stay out of any distro repo.

Thanks for your assistance.

[muungwana]

try this, run this command first in the build folder

cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr  -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  . ..

then run this one:

ccmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr  -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release  . ..

press the down key until you reach the pulse  audio entry and press "enter" to turn it off and then press "c" key to configure followed by "q" to exit and then build it again.

Make sure you have xine-devel package installed and gstreamer development packages too if you also want to build gstreamer backend.

[muungwana]

you could have build phonon without PA with the above procedure. you could have introduced a dependency issue that could come to bit you in the future

[gseaman]

I believe Tex is rebuilding things to reduce or eliminate pulseaudio dependencies until it can be made more less troublesome.

Galen