Can't get wine to work (Solved: mfc42.dll stupid!)

[Howard]

I've just installed wine and winedoors on a new, updated KDE4 installation. Clicking on winedoors in the menu list gives me a jelly wobble wine icon in the main panel, but then it vanishes.  (Also happens in an earlier somewhat messed up installation.)

I must be missing something.

[Crow]

Winedoors haven't worked fine for me, just use Wine for certain apps I need at work and games at home.

Bad news are: if the uninstall of Winedoors alone is not enough, maybe you will have to uninstall both, look for the config files of wine, delete them and reinstall Wine

[Howard]

Thanks Crow, tried that, removed everything in synaptic and all the .wine files in my account, reinstalled wine, tried to install irfanview from iview425.exe, lights flashed, but no sign of Irfanview anywhere.

I.E wine doesn't work either.

I think I'll report KDE4 as a broken package.

[freddyp]

I had the same issue with winedoors loooong before I updated to KDE4.......makes me think its not an issue with KDE4

[Crow]

I'm at my home desktop using KDE 3.x and iview425_setup.exe doesn't work on Wine, I have Magic ISO and Half Life, installed and working with Wine, in my work laptop I have KDE 4 and e17 and I use several programs included Office 2003, I remember Irfanview worked some time ago   

[Texstar]

I'm at my home desktop using KDE 3.x and iview425_setup.exe doesn't work on Wine, I have Magic ISO and Half Life, installed and working with Wine, in my work laptop I have KDE 4 and e17 and I use several programs included Office 2003, I remember Irfanview worked some time ago   

I believe I used Wine doors to install Irfanview a while back when testing.

[pinoc]

Irfanview 425 is problematic but older Irfanview version (up to version 4.0 I think) work fine with wine (never used wine-doors), personally I use 3.9.7, older version can be downloaded here.
good luck,
-p.

[Howard]

Thanks for all the suggestions, but no go I'm afraid.  I found I am using irfanview 4.10 under wine in both my 2007 installations and still had the .exe files for that.

I completely removed wine using synaptic, removed all the other wine related material I could locate and  rebooted.  I then reinstalled wine from the repo, rebooted again, and tried to run iview410_setup.exe - nothing happened.

As far as I'm concerned KDE4 and the associated updates represent a set of broken packages.  Ordinary users like me should never have been forced to get in what is a development situation.  The KDE3.5 part of the repo should have been frozen, but still accessible to regular users, while the applications being updated for KDE4 were kept completely separated for the development team to experiment with. As it stands I can re-install 2009.2, but if I update, or add any new applications there is no guarantee that they haven't been updated for KDE4 and no longer work on KDE3.5.

I have a magazine to edit, and I cannot do this using a single installation of PCLinuxOS at present - luckily I can get at every thing I need by switching between 2007 and broken updated 2009.2s.

I am shortly expecting a delivery of a Dell mini 10v.  If that doesn't work with any version of PLOS then I guess it will be the final straw.

[pinoc]

Dear Howard,

wrt to IrfanView:
you did not follow the suggestion but installed a version newer than 4.0. Now you have a problem, so why do you complain?? If you want to install IrfanView in Linux you should have used a version before 4.0. Alternatively, you can install IrfanView 3.97 in MS-Windows, then copy the Irfanview folder from C:\Program Files  to your Linux box and start the IrfanView/i_view32.exe with wine. This works very well.

wrt KDE4: no one forced you to install KDE4 but you decided to upgrade to KDE4. KDE4 is not a set of broken packages but many users have it running without problems.
wrt KDE3: if you searched the forum only a little bit then you could have easily found YouCanToo's frozen KDE3 repo, which you can use to update a fresh 2009.2 install and to stay with KDE3.

-p.

[rick0612]

Hi,

My wife is using Irfanview 4.25 in wine on the PCLOS 2009.1 fully updated and KDE4.
Try going to the Wine website and browse the App database for Irfanview. You will find very good info there on how to install Irfanview in Wine.

Hope this helps.

Rick.

[Joble]

The KDE3.5 part of the repo should have been frozen, but still accessible to regular users, while the applications being updated for KDE4 were kept completely separated for the development team to experiment with.

This is exactly what was done.  You still cannot "Accidentally" update to kde4, you have to choose to do it by changing your repo information.  

Ordinary users like me should never have been forced to get in what is a development situation.

I can understand your frustration and I hope you get it sorted but this statement about being forced into kde4 is completely false.

[Howard]

1. wrt wine: mea culpa I should have remembered the mfc42.ddl thing.  (Thanks Rick for pointing me in the right direction to jog my memory.) You have to put a copy into the windows/system32 folder of windows_c, then everything works, even with version 4.25.   I presume that cannot be automatically included in wine for copyright reasons?  (But you can get it from a windows installation.)

2. I felt I was forced to update when one or two of my favorite apps were upgraded beyond kDE3.5 and wouldn't run.  (I wasn't aware of the frozen KDE3 repo until pinoc pointed it out.)  This was also partly caused by what seems to be a real bug in the printer installation software for Epson NX200, that disabled my printer.

3. I hope I sound sufficiently contrite   Thanks to every one.

4. (off topic)  I'm also encouraged to see that Rick seems to have minime running on his Dell mini 9 - does it also have a  1024x600 screen?

[rick0612]

Howard,

Your welcome and yes, the Dell Mini9 has the 1024x600 resolution.

Rick.