Forthcoming PCLOS2010 install

[caerhays]

Hi all,

In view of the soon to be released 2010 version of PCLinusOS, will someone be issuing instructions on how to upgrade your system to this version while keeping your existing settings and configuration, emails, etc.

I would just like to be ahead of the game if I can.

[AndrzejL]

There will be no upgrading... Search the forum... Fresh install is necessery . If You have separate /home partition Your settings and emails are fine just dont format it while reinstalling if you do not have separate /home partition... backup the content of Your /home folder (copy it to pendrive or other external drive or burn to DVDs).

Just to reiterate - There will be no 'big update' this time around (due to the length of time it would take to organise a clean upgrade path for all installs) and the potential for chaos thereafter.

the changes involved go way beyond  just a change to the desktop environment, the quickest and cleanest way to upgrade this time is to reinstall from the 2010 iso - which will be available when its ready, after the reinstall the rolling will continue

In the meantime enjoy using what you have already.

Jase  

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Jase

What about the repos ? Will they be available ? Or only to ver. 2010 ?

There are a couple of threads that explain this - take a look for them.

In one Texstar states that the 2010 repo is for the 2010 iso release it will break an install from 2009 and before

Please use the handy search function or browse the forum to locate on of the threads that are ongoing.

Jase

Andy

[caerhays]

Thanks to everyone,
Sorry my terminology was incorrect and I do understand that it is to be a fresh install. I just wanted clarification on how to do this.
I have a separate /home partition and swap partition. If I am right then I just burn a 2010 ISO, pop it in the DVD drive, run the live CD, click on install to hardrive and when it gets to the relevant bit just choose to install to the /root partition and deselect formatting/installing of /home partition.

Will it really be as simple as that !. If so then we would say "properjob" here in Cornwall, UK.

[tschommer]

caerhays, I'm sure you'll be able to say "properjob" when the time comes 

[Hootiegibbon]

caerhays,

As stated above we will not be rolling to the new release due to the stated reasons.

You can still prepare for the new install though, first back up everything of value on your hard drive - just in case - how you do this is up to you whether you use an online service (like dropbox) or back up to DVD or external hard drive.

Then you know if anything goes wrong your data is safe.

During the install process you are offered the choice of which partitions to reformat, make sure your /home partition is unchecked. then when you set up a user ensure that you use the same details (realname, login, user id etc) as on your current install, that way it will use the existing /home information - should afford minimal reconfiguration (if any) for each user.

It may or may not be possible to use the 'synaptic markings' system - this is due to potential nomenclature issues and whether an application will still exist after the reinstall sio we will have to await the beta to see if this is possible or not.

Jase

[oldschool]

Will it really be as simple as that !. If so then we would say "properjob" here in Cornwall, UK.

From Hootiegibbon:  ...use the same details (realname, login, user id etc) as on your current install...

Yes, it's really that simple.


oldschool

[frisbeelab]

Correct me if I am wrong, and I would be very pleased to hear I am..... but the upgrade is a little more complicated than I am reading.  Sure you can keep your /Home and associated stuff if it is on a seperate partition (mine is).   But after you do the 2010 fresh install, to get back to where you want to be you will have to go to Synaptic and get everything you have installed from it.   Then if you use Open Office as I suspect most of us do, you need to "Get" it.   

I also use Thunderbird and am unsure if it was part of 2009 or not.  If not in 2010 I will need to get it.  In my experience TBird isn't so nice about reinstalling and don't know if it will recognize that I have it set up in /home under .thunderbird....... can anyone help me here?

Bottom line is that for those of us who truly use PCLinuxOS as a primary OS every day, this is a less trivial change than I think is being portrayed......
 
.... and I didn't mention the move to 4.4 (is that the release in 2010?)

I've been reading about Grub problems for those of us who have multi boot setups as well. 

In the long run I'm sure all the fuss will be worth it..... but just wanted to bring a little reality.
 

 

[Sleepy]

I'm going to save all the 2009 installs and leave be because they all work perfectly.Then when 2010 is released I shall install to either a separate partition or a new hdd and gradually upgrade it.....simple decision and easier option for me  

[johnmart]

I picked up a couple of helps to make a reinstall simpler.
1. My d/l's are slow so I set synaptics to keep the openoffice rpm's so I can simply reinstall them. I only install OO like this cuz it is infrequently updated. Other apps are at risk of dependency issues so I generally just d/l.
2. Save your synaptics markings so all your installed apps are there.
Plus, I keep it simple by installing MiniMe so I only install what I want. Only myself to blame for bloat!!! 
Love the beta1!!
John

[JerryP]

I suppose this thread is appropriate for my question becasue the PCLOS2010 install is "forthcoming" for me.

I am presently using 2009, fully updated with KDE4. I have a 50GB root and a 300GB home partitioned hard drive. I understand to format "/" and leave "/home" alone BUT what about all of the "hidden" files that are in my "/home" directory such as .KDE4. Won't some files of this sort "play hell" with an otherwise new 2010 install?
If the 2010 will just copy over these then I see no problem with just doing it but I wanted to check.

[Neal ManBear]

I suppose this thread is appropriate for my question becasue the PCLOS2010 install is "forthcoming" for me.

I am presently using 2009, fully updated with KDE4. I have a 50GB root and a 300GB home partitioned hard drive. I understand to format "/" and leave "/home" alone BUT what about all of the "hidden" files that are in my "/home" directory such as .KDE4. Won't some files of this sort "play hell" with an otherwise new 2010 install?
If the 2010 will just copy over these then I see no problem with just doing it but I wanted to check.

Just prior to installing 2010, rename your .kde4 to .kde4.old. After the install, you can make whatever adjustments you want. Simple.

[JerryP]

Thanks. That sounds good. It still have a KDE.old from when I upgraded to KDE4.
Is there any other files I should make *.old so they install entirely fresh?

[Neal ManBear]

Choose those that you want. It really is your choice.