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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2010, 06:22:56 PM »
that is the most pessimistic answer i had seen in this forum!

all you say is that there is no hope and you have to suck it up!

no, there is always options, you could not use internet again  ;D

Hahaha, if you call the option "waiting for better times" a option, you are right!  ;D
And believe me, I just have to move 40 Km's from where I live (where I got plenty options) to be at a spot where is NO option at all so far.... And no, its not a place where no-one lives, plenty people live there.  "Option-less" exists!!  (AKA no options)  :D  Other places offer just one option at best. It is depending as to where you live/are.
Hard to imagine?

It really is not hard to imagine that you can live in a populated place and not have options.  When I lived in Portland, Or. I lived in a place where I couldn't get DSL, but it was available everywhere around me. The funny thing was if you were will to pay for it you could get a T1 line. Qwest at the time charged $320.00 a month not including the loopback fees and the cost of the Cisco Router that was needed.




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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2010, 09:07:56 PM »
no, i can imagine it, 5 years ago i only had phone line but right now i have 3 options apart from the phone line

Please don't forget that the world is build around "I"  ;D  You're just lucky to be at the right spot.  ;)

most times you need to talk with the company and show your interest for the product they offer, if there is not demand in a specific are, there will be no offer, they won't wider their current network and won't sell more connections


Wrong, offers can and will lead to demand as well... That is at least part of the business of the provider. It's called "expansion".

sometimes you can create a local wifi with wide coverage using a faster connection covering 1 to 5 kilometers, sounds like a project to collaborate with the neighbors.

1 to 5 Km's is in i.e. my sample just not enough and it might be here and there even illegal to do so.

No, we are "in" or "out" by the grace of luck in many cases. As I said, it is really about where you live. I am lucky as I live in a third world country but 'at the right spot' with plenty choices. Some can't (afford?) to do so here and rely on if and what is available. Such always turns out unfavorable in terms of "speed" and costs which makes things even worse. Still ongoing.
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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2010, 09:19:01 PM »
"You're just lucky to be at the right spot."

no, if i had real luck i had another 3 more options  ;)

"just not enough and it might be here and there even illegal to do so."

not enough? ok, but illegal? why? all you would do is share your connection with your neighbors and i don't know about any restriction on those, all you would do is create a big wifi area like in many restaurants, cafeteria or similar places

if the connection is not used properly, that is another story

"Just believe me on this."

the money limitation, you say that i have to trust you?  money is a limitation?  :o

i am always the pessimistic/realistic guy but you replaced me  ;D
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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »
"You're just lucky to be at the right spot."

no, if i had real luck i had another 3 more options  ;)

"just not enough and it might be here and there even illegal to do so."

not enough? ok, but illegal? why? all you would do is share your connection with your neighbors and i don't know about any restriction on those, all you would do is create a big wifi area like in many restaurants, cafeteria or similar places

if the connection is not used properly, that is another story

"Just believe me on this."

the money limitation, you say that i have to trust you?  money is a limitation?  :o

i am always the pessimistic/realistic guy but you replaced me  ;D

Don't reason with the unreasonable  ;D ;D ;D

Btw, it is true, at many spots on earth radio waves are controlled and limited and comes with the license stuff etc. not worth the trouble if your hit by that.... Way back home (NL) in the 80ties they had problems with even a wireless phone!

Anyway, we lost monitoring networks ...  :D
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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2010, 07:54:25 AM »
Hello,
        Here in the UK broadband via phone lines is totally luck of the draw.Companies in the UK(BT) wont spend money on new phone lines while they can get away with not doing so.After all, they are making a bundle from their old telegraph lines which were put up when the telephone was a new invention.It is the same with most things in the UK.Take water utilities.They have been charging people for water via a Victorian infrastructure for over a century.They whine like hell when part fails and they have to spend money on replacing it.They see that as an excuse to raise prices and justify it by citing modernization cost.The fact they have been using something for over a century with as little maintenance and cost as possible is overlooked.The railways of the UK are in a similar situation.Whilst most of Europe built new systems after the war here in the UK they where lashed it up to make do.That stops the total replacement with something that is adequate for modern use.
That is why modernization is such a piecemeal effort.Cable and fiber optic is available in the UK but only in dense population areas where the biggest profit margin is available.Being modern and efficient does not sit well in the UK unless it is cheap and makes for big returns unfortunately.Cases off modern technology being allowed to progress elsewhere other than Britain are numerous as are missed opportunities because there is no quick return.There is a thing called Gigabit Backhaul due in April so my broadband may reach a Projected Speed:     1.46Mbps (1500Kbps).Taken from my isp's site. ::)
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Re: NetworkMonitoring
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2010, 02:22:39 PM »
"It is the same with most things in the UK.Take water utilities.They have been charging people for water via a Victorian infrastructure for over a century.They whine like hell when part fails and they have to spend money on replacing it.They see that as an excuse to raise prices and justify it by citing modernization cost."

 ;D

that happens everywhere  ;D

"There is a thing called Gigabit Backhaul due in April so my broadband may reach a Projected Speed:     1.46Mbps (1500Kbps)"

so finally you will reach a T1 level?  ok, i had that 3 years ago, i'm thinking on upgrading to 8 mbits connection ;D

someone offered me a 20 mbits connection but it costs 200 dollars per month so no no
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