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Offline Phi1l

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Synaptic not updating??
« on: February 10, 2010, 12:40:25 AM »
My Synaptic has not found anything to update since 1/6/2010, Conthis be correct?

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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2010, 01:05:53 AM »
My Synaptic has not found anything to update since 1/6/2010, Conthis be correct?

Yep, it's frozen unless you download the new PCLOS 2010/KDE4.4. The ISO will be available any day now.

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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 09:56:25 AM »
Yep, it's frozen unless you download the new PCLOS 2010/KDE4.4. The ISO will be available any day now.

Won't synaptic upgrade to this?
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 10:00:40 AM »
Nope, there's just too much that needs to be upgraded/implemented to be able to just upgrade via Synaptic.

See what Tex wrote about this:

Will 2010 require a clean install?

The original plan was to simply update 2009 through 2010. Due to the complex issues and user intervention required to go to new kernel 2.6.32.4, udev, hal, initscripts, plymouth bootsplash, speedboot, xorg, compiz 3D, nvidia/fglrx drivers, ext 4 default file system, KDE 4.4 it is easier for me to provide a new ISO with a 2010 repository in a couple of weeks than to spend 3-4 months trying to work up some kind of valid upgrade path that probably be more trouble to the end user than it is worth. Once we get everyone on 2010 we can keep rolling along with updates again.
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2010, 11:03:19 AM »
Will that mean reinstalling everything? or will the .iso in effect amount to an upgrade? I'm not too excited with the prospect of starting from "scratch" no matter how nice the "scratch" may be.
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2010, 11:07:02 AM »
For safety's sake, I would do a wipe and reinstall.  If you have your personal data (/home, or whatever) on a separate partition, you can leave it alone and just re-point to it during the install.
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2010, 01:33:52 PM »
I'm thinking I may actually do my initial installs on an external USB drive.  I figure that will allow me to compare installed/removed applications and configurations.  Once the USB install is "perfect" (never!...must...tweak!), I can just wipe and rsync, clean up fstab and vavoom!

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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2010, 03:21:34 PM »
If you have your personal data (/home, or whatever) on a separate partition, you can leave it alone and just re-point to it during the install.

I have my /home as a separate partition and always have after my very first Linux try.  I tried keeping /home the same while changing ditros once (I think I was trying to load Suse over Mandriva or something like that) but it was not a pleasant experience. There were many conflicts. That may have even been when I said, "screw this" and started using PCLinuxOS. Do you think PCLOS over PCLOS would work better? 
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2010, 04:55:36 PM »


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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2010, 08:07:36 PM »
Would PCLOS over PCLOS work better? Of course!

However, if the desktop changes (e.g., KDE3 to KDE4) your desktop settings may no longer map the way you expect.  New versions of applications can cause similar problems.

As a general rule, I keep my *data* (documents, pictures, etc.) on yet a different partition, so I can overwrite my /home partition if necessary.
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2010, 04:41:32 AM »
... if the desktop changes (e.g., KDE3 to KDE4) your desktop settings may no longer map the way you expect.  New versions of applications can cause similar problems.
As a general rule, I keep my *data* (documents, pictures, etc.) on yet a different partition, so I can overwrite my /home partition if necessary.

I already am using KDE4 so I suppose the thing to do is back up all my data (as I should anyhow but haven't for a year or so) and then clean install.  Now that I think of it maybe this is the perfect time to buy that 1 or 2 TB drive and just use my old drive as a slave. After the new drive is up an running I can move all my data to a "data" partition, format the slave and then just use the whole thing 500 GB for data back up. I can do it all "at my leisure". I like that, especially the leisure part.
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Re: Synaptic not updating??
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2010, 06:39:11 AM »
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Won't synaptic upgrade to this?

If you look/search through the forum you'll find loads of posts covering all the upgrading/updating topics so it may save you a bit of time posting and awaiting reply posts etc...
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