Thanks! ! ! Yup, I'm aware of the 3.95 version. BUT ! ! ! ! the beta version must be compiled, etc, etc, and I'm not that much into that kind of thing. It might be simple enough, I have done it a couple of times, but at this time all is working so well, I'll just hold off until it is released as an rpm by PCLOS and the ripper gang. That is unless I get a serious breakage on something else.