Can't stand the 'Device Notifier' applet - how may I change it, please?

[vc]

Of all the odious changes that KDE4 has inflicted upon users, the new 'Device Notifier' applet is certainly one of the most aggravating.  Now, whenever a 'new device' is plugged in, the first thing that occurs is an annoying 'popup' notification.  Then, one is now forced to navigate to the 'Device Notifier' button, click on it, and select "Open with File Manager' - regardless of whether one may already have a file manager opened in the first place!  There seems no way to simply mount the device straightaway, without plodding mindlessly through all these redundant steps.

What the <bleep> was so 'wrong' about simply right-clicking on a device icon and selecting 'Safely Remove', anyway?  Am I left to assume that somehow that method seemed too easy, so they decided to 'fix' it, by replacing it entirely?

Please! - how may I restore the system:/media view to Konqueror, and regain the right-click 'Safely Remove' device-handling method?  This new 'Device Notifier' notion is, in my opinion, such an obviously stupid idea - how did such ever come to be in the first place?

[muungwana]

i do not share your opinions and i cant seem to see past them so ..i will pass this one ..

[tschommer]

vc, please discuss this with the KDE developers. Tex and the crew can only package what is provided by the developers of the software applications.

[vc]

So - in other words then, there isn't any way?  We are stuck with this poor so-called 'method' forever?  Is there not even a means available to add a plain 'Mount' option to the blasted 'Device Notifer', at least?

[vc]

i do not share your opinions and i cant seem to see past them so ..i will pass this one ..

I do not understand, muungwana - you would rather handle devices in this more tedious way?  Why?  What advantage could you possibly see to this new method?

[thorper]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

[vc]

vc, please discuss this with the KDE developers. Tex and the crew can only package what is provided by the developers of the software applications.

Please accept my apologies, tschommer - I mean no slight whatsoever, towards the PCLinuxOS team, and I do understand that they are being forced to deal with it to a far greater extent than are we.  However - I also do realise that the voice of such a team does indeed carry considerably more weight than that of one 'noisy' individual; therefore, I have directed this observation accordingly, so it may hopefully perhaps be passed upward should any opportunity for such somehow arise,

It seems very much to me that the KDE development team has already amply demonstrated their utter lack of any wish whatsoever to hear and perhaps act upon the so-called 'complaints' of mere users, anyway.  Therefore, although this thread for the moment may truly be insoluble, these postings do serve to document the situation, in a form that may readily be forwarded.

[muungwana]

kde4 is still a work in progress, kde sc 4.4 will be released in a few weeks ..try it and see if they have addressed your issues. There are reason why "media:/" kio slaves was dropped, it was inconsistent and it caused more problems that it solved ..  

kde4 file manager is dolphin, mass storage devices show up on the panel and you can right click and mount/unmount them. You dont have to manage your devices through the media device plasmoid

[vc]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

No!  A mounted device must always be unmounted, prior to removal - that is the proper procedure.  Unfortunately however, now it has suddenly become unnecessarily more complicated.

[thorper]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

No!  A mounted device must always be unmounted, prior to removal - that is the proper procedure.  Unfortunately however, now it has suddenly become unnecessarily more complicated.

Thanks for clearing that up. I will follow the new unmount procedure, now I know how.

[muungwana]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

all devices have an icon on the right side of their entry on the list, the icon changes to an "eject" button when it is mounted and to a "connect" icon when it isnt. You should click the "eject" button to unmount your device before you remove it

or you can open up dolphin and your removable device will show up on the "places" panel and you can right click it and click "unmount" to unmount it. The option has the same "eject" icon that appears on the device notifier place

[vc]

kde4 file manager is dolphin, mass storage devices show up on the panel and you can right click and mount/unmount them. You dont have to manage your devices through the media device plasmoid

I do not wish to use Dolphin, as it does not have any means of enabling the Tabbing feature permanently.  Because of this, I prefer to use Konqueror - and in that, I disable all panels save for the Tree view, in order to be able to see the filenames on an 800 x 480 display screen.

[Hootiegibbon]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

No you still have to safely remove, the function is available within the device notifier (its the little 'eject symbol' within the description in device notifier.)

You can infact use dolphin (thats the new file manager) to mount and 'safely remove' the hardware will appear in the 'places' section of dolphin, given enough time you will probably find that konq may well still be able to do this (I use dolphin now - its takes some getting used to and you may need to go through some configuration options to get it to be at its best).

vc,

Please remove yourself from the emotional as your tone is not necessary , ask for help in a way that does not push others away or you may miss the help that you need,  the PCLinuxOS devs are not actually responsible for the way KDE4 is developed - Tex had his doubts at first - thats why it was held back until it was ready.

You dont HAVE to have device notifier - it is a handy bonus - at least to me - what is simpler than having the presence of the device be presented to you and click on the description to mount it (or choose and set a default action) and then click an eject symbol to safely remove.

KDE4 is different to KDE3 but fior the most part it is quicker in its operation (at least thats what i have found).

There is also a second 'device notifier ' available (In synaptic) which works slightly differently to the default one.

Jase

[Hootiegibbon]

I dont like double posting but...

vc,

open dolphin > right click the toolbar > configure toolbar > add the 'open tab, and open in new tab selections , close and then right click on a folder.

What options are you shown...

Jase

[YouCanToo]

I noticed this new function. Can I assume that I no longer have to "safely remove" a device before unplugging it?

Yes it is there when the file manager opens. Left hand side right click on the device and click on "safely remove device"