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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2010, 06:47:17 PM »
i'm sorry if i never said it Hottiegibbon but your desktop looks spectacular whit those small taskbars in the positions you set them

the plix theme, for me is working more than well the elegant theme, it combines perfectly with my customized emerald theme in compiz but this one looks very well(i don't like it for my work environment but looks very well)
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2010, 08:22:19 PM »
Holy twitching purple Dilberts!  Ds342, YOU HAVE SAVED MY DAY!!!  At _last_; after all this time, some real progress... I'm so happy right now, I'm about to wet myself (no, really - hang on a moment please; brb).....

Ahhhh...... at long, LONG, last; the joy now flows freely!  THANK YOU, Ds342!!

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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2010, 08:33:26 PM »
try a plasmoid theme

hmmm....

i heard that before, where?

maybe here

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,67549.msg550763.html#msg550763
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2010, 09:07:02 PM »
Yes, T6 - but surely you must admit that I did learn more about theming by first attempting the editings... and perhaps we have all learned that maybe - just maybe - I may not be so readily dismissed as being nothing more than a total whack-job, for ever wishing for such in the first place?  For obviously, at least one other person - the author of the Plix theme - seems to have wished similarly.

Anyway; here's the second screenshot (with a light background):

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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2010, 10:22:43 PM »
"Yes, T6 - but surely you must admit that I did learn more about theming by first attempting the editings... "

and i hope you keep learning how to do a complete them with everything transparent, also how to modify every single plasmoid to transparent or at least very clear, something very nice could come from your creations

"and perhaps we have all learned that maybe - just maybe - I may not be so readily dismissed as being nothing more than a total whack-job, for ever wishing for such in the first place?"

i never said that but i surely said that the whole post got a discouraging tone, very uncomfortable at least from my point of view, all i said was that a completely transparent desktop gives a disordered impression and i really like order in my desktop(i already ended burned for this preference in another post)

anyway i'm happy you can make the system behave the way you like it at least a a little bit with this
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2010, 11:35:12 PM »
and i hope you keep learning how to do a complete them with everything transparent, also how to modify every single plasmoid to transparent or at least very clear, something very nice could come from your creations

Then I must certainly learn more of the capabilities of Inkscape, first.  I have a basic grasp of its operation; however, some of the more arcane aspects yet elude me - such as, for example, how to control the percentage amount of transparency, instead of dealing with it in an 'On-Off' manner.

i never said that but i surely said that the whole post got a discouraging tone, very uncomfortable at least from my point of view, all i said was that a completely transparent desktop gives a disordered impression and i really like order in my desktop(i already ended burned for this preference in another post)

While that is indeed true, I sensed the ulterior implication regardless.  As an individual though, you surely have a right to hold your own opinions and preferences; as certainly as does anyone else, including even myself.  You place your emphasis on the desktop, whereas to my view it is the taskbar that is of ultimate utility and importance (due to the fact that I very seldom actually see any of my desktops, as they are normally completely covered by some app, anyhow.).

anyway i'm happy you can make the system behave the way you like it at least a a little bit with this

As am I, also!  Please believe me, T6; I was not joking, when I said that I have been wishing to achieve this particular effect for more than two years now.  When was that LG3D 'demo' distro first released, anyhow?  It's been since then, at any rate, for initially that was the culprit - I first fell in love with the look, then and there.

At this point though, I find I must make a decision.  There are at least several remaining taskbar-related issues that I wish to deal with, but I am viewing the present size of this thread and so find myself wondering if perhaps it may be better to start a new one?  Which direction would you recommend?  I find I am now indecisive - on the one hand, the primary focus of this thread has now been solved; on the other, however, the remaining questions are still all taskbar-related, so logically they should remain together with the existing thread focus.  So: begin anew, or continue this thread onwards?  Which approach would be less confusing for others, or more productive?
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2010, 06:55:42 AM »
I'd say as long as the Original subject (taskbar) is maintained, the thread length shouldn't matter.. Mods. may need clear this up either way.  ;)
But I do know of much longer threads that are still active.  :D :D
Besides that, I and I suspect others also are learning things from this that can only help us to!   8)
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2010, 08:31:23 AM »
"When was that LG3D 'demo' distro first released, anyhow?"

?!

i forgot completely this!

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/

looks dead to me  :(
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2010, 06:43:15 PM »
"When was that LG3D 'demo' distro first released, anyhow?"

?!

i forgot completely this!

http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/

looks dead to me  :(


You're correct, unfortunately - it is.  Sayang... I never forgot it - not for a single moment.  It was a step towards the sort of GUI environment I have always envisioned: a _true_ 3D workspace for CAD.  If ever somehow someone were to find a way to get such running properly, I would likely never leave my computer - I would simply be unable to do so.

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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2010, 06:52:21 PM »
i had it and worked horribly slow

it is based on java, you couldn't expect anything else

linux with cairo dock, compiz and other tricks more is the only hope for this now
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2010, 06:57:08 PM »
i had it and worked horribly slow

it is based on java, you couldn't expect anything else

Same.

linux with cairo dock, compiz and other tricks more is the only hope for this now

Disagree - LG had true 3D mapping.  Linux may venture into similar; I do not know at this time.  Perhaps new nVidia 3D technology shall provide impetus?
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2010, 06:59:32 PM »
i don't understand exactly this so i will say yes   ???
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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2010, 07:05:12 PM »
i don't understand exactly this so i will say yes   ???

LG had freedom of cursor movement along Z-axis; object placement involved depth.  Not simulated?  I thought workspace was designed with such - mistaken?

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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2010, 09:10:31 PM »
???  Don't know what happened; I had attempted to post, message too large, post rejected, attempted to modify attachment & resubmit, forum reported it as already posted, go back, refresh - not there.  Lost.

No matter - next issue is text.  Is there a 'high-contrast' monospaced sans-serif typeface that has inherent stroke shadowing (or haloing), so it remains visible on either light or dark background?  Re-attached image (now scaled to fit upload limit) indicates problem; plain white text is difficult to read on a light background:

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Also noticed additional bug:  taskbar panel set to 'Windows go Beneath'; however, F11-fullscreened apps do not.  Taskbar panel set to 'Auto Hide', again; if app fullscreened with F11, cannot return taskbar from hiding.

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Re: Tackling the Taskbar: the underline of _frustration_!
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2010, 09:52:16 PM »
Another more important issue:  how to move icons around to arrange placement within taskbar layout?  Can't right-click>Move them anymore.  :-(
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