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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2010, 07:40:52 AM »
Thanks Gandy, will give it a try and see if there is some improvement.

Is your machine actually faster or is it just the report is now more accurate?  Thanks again.

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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2010, 07:48:52 AM »
Yes, it is faster. It was very sluggish and choppy before.
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 07:58:20 AM »
hyperthreading is only useful in some apps in windows but mostly it leads to system instability(specially in games), it seems that cheat he system making it believe that there are more cores that really are is a bad idea
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 11:42:04 AM »
Yes, it is faster. It was very sluggish and choppy before.

I tried without HT but it made no difference to the readings I got or to the speed of the PC.


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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2010, 11:44:16 AM »
hyperthreading is only useful in some apps in windows but mostly it leads to system instability(specially in games), it seems that cheat he system making it believe that there are more cores that really are is a bad idea

I know nothing of Windows, but I have had HT enabled for the past five years approx in Linux and have never had a problem.
It has been useful when running apps that are capable of multithreading.

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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2010, 02:13:19 PM »
Yes, it is faster. It was very sluggish and choppy before.

I tried without HT but it made no difference to the readings I got or to the speed of the PC.


regards.
I may have spoken too soon. Every time I run the cat/proc/cpuinfo command, I get different results. It still seems more smooth than before when I had hyperthreading turned on but that may not have been the problem.

Like you, I had hyperthreading on when I was using 3.5 with no problems. It's going to take awhile to get used to KDE4 and maybe it will take a newer kernel to improve things.
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2010, 02:28:22 PM »
For those with the multi-step processors, maybe running a app that brings the load up while trying the command may yield truer numbers, most are probably just idling while running the command.
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2010, 05:07:13 PM »
Hi JohnBoy, you're probably right about that being the fsb. I believe this is your cpu.
Code: [Select]
General information
Type CPU / Microprocessor
Family Intel Pentium 4
Model number  ? 640
CPU part numbers JM80547PG0882MM (SL7Z8)
HH80547PG0882MM (SL8Q6)
Box part numbers BX80547PG3200F (SL7Z8, SL8Q6)
BX80547PG3200FT (SL7Z8, SL8Q6)
Frequency (MHz)  ? 3200
Bus speed (MHz)  ? 800
Clock multiplier  ? 16
Package 775-land Flip-Chip Land Grid Array (FC-LGA4)
1.476" x 1.476" (3.75 cm x 3.75 cm)
Socket Socket 775 (LGA775)
Introduction date Feb 21, 2005
Price at introduction $273
 
Architecture / Microarchitecture
Processor core Prescott 2M
Core steppings N0 (SL7Z8)
R0 (SL8Q6)
Manufacturing process 0.09 micron
169 million transistors
Data width 64 bit
Floating Point Unit Integrated
Level 1 cache size  ? 16 KB data cache
Level 2 cache size  ? 2 MB 8-way set associative cache with error-correction code
Features

    * MMX
    * SSE
    * SSE2
    * SSE3
    * Extended Memory 64 Technology (EM64T)  ?
    * Hyper-Threading Technology
    * Execute Disable bit  ?
    * SpeedStep technology  ?
    * Thermal Monitor 2

Low power features

    * System Management mode
    * Auto HALT mode  ?
    * Stop Grant mode  ?
    * Sleep mode  ?
    * Enhanced HALT mode

 
Electrical/Thermal parameters
V core (V)  ? 1.2 - 1.4
Minimum/Maximum operating temperature (°C)  ? 5 - 66.6
Minimum/Maximum power dissipation (W)  ? 53.28 (Stop Grant mode) / 98.83
Thermal Design Power (W)  ? 84
 
Notes on Intel JM80547PG0882MM

    * Bus frequency is 200 MHz. Because the processor uses Quad Data Rate bus the effective bus speed is 800 MHz
    * The part HH80547PG0882MM is RoHS compliant
It's the only 3.2ghz P4 with a 2mb L2 cache. Maybe it's hard to distinguish between the HT and fsb and actual clock speed in some cases. IE, The hardware detection or reporting is confused.
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 05:17:22 PM »
Hi JohnBoy, you're probably right about that being the fsb. I believe this is your cpu.
Code: [Select]
General information
Type CPU / Microprocessor
Family Intel Pentium 4
Model number  ? 640
CPU part numbers JM80547PG0882MM (SL7Z8)
HH80547PG0882MM (SL8Q6)
Box part numbers BX80547PG3200F (SL7Z8, SL8Q6)
BX80547PG3200FT (SL7Z8, SL8Q6)
Frequency (MHz)  ? 3200
Bus speed (MHz)  ? 800
Clock multiplier  ? 16
Package 775-land Flip-Chip Land Grid Array (FC-LGA4)
1.476" x 1.476" (3.75 cm x 3.75 cm)
Socket Socket 775 (LGA775)
Introduction date Feb 21, 2005
Price at introduction $273
 
Architecture / Microarchitecture
Processor core Prescott 2M
Core steppings N0 (SL7Z8)
R0 (SL8Q6)
Manufacturing process 0.09 micron
169 million transistors
Data width 64 bit
Floating Point Unit Integrated
Level 1 cache size  ? 16 KB data cache
Level 2 cache size  ? 2 MB 8-way set associative cache with error-correction code
Features

    * MMX
    * SSE
    * SSE2
    * SSE3
    * Extended Memory 64 Technology (EM64T)  ?
    * Hyper-Threading Technology
    * Execute Disable bit  ?
    * SpeedStep technology  ?
    * Thermal Monitor 2

Low power features

    * System Management mode
    * Auto HALT mode  ?
    * Stop Grant mode  ?
    * Sleep mode  ?
    * Enhanced HALT mode

 
Electrical/Thermal parameters
V core (V)  ? 1.2 - 1.4
Minimum/Maximum operating temperature (°C)  ? 5 - 66.6
Minimum/Maximum power dissipation (W)  ? 53.28 (Stop Grant mode) / 98.83
Thermal Design Power (W)  ? 84
 
Notes on Intel JM80547PG0882MM

    * Bus frequency is 200 MHz. Because the processor uses Quad Data Rate bus the effective bus speed is 800 MHz
    * The part HH80547PG0882MM is RoHS compliant
It's the only 3.2ghz P4 with a 2mb L2 cache. Maybe it's hard to distinguish between the HT and fsb and actual clock speed in some cases. IE, The hardware detection is confused.

Thanks for that info .......... I personally suspect the problem is the BIOS which is so limited that there is little info allowed about any part of the PC ..........  just like all Dell machines ...........  heck I cannot even get a temperature or voltage reading from it!
So it would be no surprise to find that the info about the CPU was somewhat garbled.

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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2010, 05:18:50 PM »
Good GOSH! We are ALL geeks for real!  ;D ;D ;D

[rudge12000@localhost ~]$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor       : 0                       
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel             
cpu family      : 6                       
model           : 15                       
model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2160  @ 1.80GHz
stepping        : 13                                             
cpu MHz         : 1795.542                                       
cache size      : 1024 KB                                       
physical id     : 0                                             
siblings        : 2                                             
core id         : 0                                             
cpu cores       : 2                                             
apicid          : 0                                             
initial apicid  : 0                                             
fdiv_bug        : no                                             
hlt_bug         : no                                             
f00f_bug        : no                                             
coma_bug        : no                                             
fpu             : yes                                           
fpu_exception   : yes                                           
cpuid level     : 10                                             
wp              : yes                                           
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm                                                                                                                 
bogomips        : 3594.14                                                                                         
clflush size    : 64                                                                                             
power management:                                                                                                 

processor       : 1
vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
cpu family      : 6
model           : 15
model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  E2160  @ 1.80GHz
stepping        : 13
cpu MHz         : 1795.542
cache size      : 1024 KB
physical id     : 0
siblings        : 2
core id         : 1
cpu cores       : 2
apicid          : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 10
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips        : 3590.99
clflush size    : 64
power management:


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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2010, 05:30:41 PM »
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just like all Dell machines ...........  heck I cannot even get a temperature or voltage reading from it!
I know what you mean. There is nothing quite as nice as a retail motherboard. The oem's really leave a lot to be desired. It all depends on the hardware monitoring chip and the app you use also. Some work in one situation in one OS, but not the other. I've gotten used checking temps the old fashioned way by licking my finger and touching the heatsink.    ;D ;D
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2010, 05:34:47 PM »
I've gotten used checking temps the old fashioned way by licking my finger and touching the heatsink.    ;D ;D

By the looks of the temp info you posted about my CPU, if mine sizzles then I am too late!   ;D ;D ;D

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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2010, 05:37:04 PM »
no licking here(don't like electricity in my mouth) but when i can, by hand, i can compare temperatures to see if the monitor is right or wrong
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2010, 06:02:11 PM »
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By the looks of the temp info you posted about my CPU, if mine sizzles then I am too late!
I had a prescott P4 in one of my boxes. It ran so hot I had to take it out. Almost fried my vrm circuit. Intel has a guideline for running prescott cpu's. Even the psu needs to meet certain requirements as well as having a TAC case. I'll stick to AMD anyway. I never cared for intel stuff.
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Re: What's your actual CPU speed?
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2010, 06:29:37 PM »
Mine seems to be running at what it should be.
It is an AMD Sempron 64 bit 3000+


processor       : 0
vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
cpu family      : 15
model           : 44
model name      : AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3000+
stepping        : 2
cpu MHz         : 1800.000
cache size      : 128 KB
fdiv_bug        : no
hlt_bug         : no
f00f_bug        : no
coma_bug        : no
fpu             : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level     : 1
wp              : yes
flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 3dnow up pni lahf_lm
bogomips        : 3598.97
clflush size    : 64
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc


Although my Acer laptop is an AMD Turion X2 and supposed to be at 1600 mhz but is only showing 800 mhz.

vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 15
model      : 72
model name   : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50
stepping   : 2
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 256 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 2
core id      : 0
cpu cores   : 2
apicid      : 0
initial apicid   : 0
fdiv_bug   : no
hlt_bug      : no
f00f_bug   : no
coma_bug   : no
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 1
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy
bogomips   : 1595.99
clflush size   : 64
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 15
model      : 72
model name   : AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50
stepping   : 2
cpu MHz      : 800.000
cache size   : 256 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 2
core id      : 1
cpu cores   : 2
apicid      : 1
initial apicid   : 1
fdiv_bug   : no
hlt_bug      : no
f00f_bug   : no
coma_bug   : no
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 1
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy
bogomips   : 1595.99
clflush size   : 64
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

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