Full partition,update regected lack of space

[ross.m]

Hi everybody,
First of all I am a lamer with limited comp skills,but since I hate MS I choose PCLOS for nearly a year.I kept the system up to date via update-notifier,but last time there was error report for lack of space.The partition is 10G with 2G swap and somehow I ended up with no place,but 160 MB.
I am running PCLOS 2009./2 2.6.26.8.tex3 on a desktop comp-AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+/2G RAM/RV370 [Sapphire X550 Silent],ATA SAMSUNG SP2504C.
I checked the directories,the trash is empty and I still have no idea what is filling up my hda7?Can anyone suggest an app to get rid of obsolete files,which will not harm my system?
One more question is about my recently bought web camera - made in China 8MPs USB2.0.It works fine with wxcam,using uvcvideo,but in Skype it is completely blind and the test is freezing.   
  Regards - Rumen/Bulgaria

[Waldo22]

Check your synaptic.  Go to settings/preferences, click files tab, and make sure that "Delete downloaded packages after installation" is checked.  Also click the "Delete cached package files" button.

[ThirdOfSix]

You say "the partition is 10G". Does this mean that you have PCLOS installed on a single partition rather than the default of a root partition and a home partition?

It will be easier for folks to help if they know the answer.

Have you done any remasters using "make live cd"?

That will leave some huge files on your drive that should be deleted.

The most likely place to look for your missing space is in the tmp folder.

The exact path to it depends on how your drive is partitioned.

To give you an idea, my tmp folder currently shows a size of only 1.4MB.

If you do a right mouse click on yours and check "properties" and find that it is many gigabytes in size, you are on track to a solution.

[muungwana]

you can install a program called "filelight" and run it to see what files take most space and where are they on your system

open the terminal and type "su" and enter roots password when asked and they copy and paste the following command and type press "enter" on your keyboard and post its result here

du -sch /*

what does this command also give you

df -h

ps:
you can open the terminal by pressing "F4" when konqueror or dolphin has focus or you can look for it on your menu structure. The terminal will be named "terminal" or "konsole"

[ross.m]

Thanks,Waldo22,twiking synaptic gave me over 2G free,I just did not notice that cash stored on the hard.Pls take look on the screen shot,but don`t laugh on me-I was pretty shore I`m doing it right.The focus is on hda6,where my PCLOS is, but there is an empty partition in the beginning and I wander can it be used after proper formatting/ext3/ and what for?
 I did not played with remastering yet,I just relay on updating,but I configured tmp to be emptied on boot.
 I`ll search the repository for "filelight" and give it a tray,it promise to be fun.My update-notifier gives me error report saying "it could be the held packages" but it happened some time ago and after a while it was OK again

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[Bald Brick]

Can anyone suggest an app to get rid of obsolete files,which will not harm my system?

All programs that promise to get rid of unnecessary files are potentially dangerous. A program called Bleachbit is both easier to use and less dangerous than most (but if you install it, you still shouldn't unthinkingly let it remove files left and right).

Muungwana's advice is excellent.

(Also note that by default all tmp directories are symlinks to /tmp, and quite a number of other temporary directories are symlinks to subdirectories under /tmp. That makes cleaning up temporary files quite fast, but if you remove everything in /tmp -- as root -- you should probably reboot immediately afterwards.)

[ross.m]

And here is what du -sch returns

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[ross.m]

 And I still can not use my web camera with Skype.I`v red a lot of posts,but could not find anything useful.

[ross.m]

I already wrote I am GUI user so I`m not ashamed to confess that I am doing everything in the hard way,but I love PCLOS as the only system which started all the hardware and connected to internet even from the live CD and I will not give up.Unfortunately there is shortage of time and I am an old donkey/over here in BG we say old monkey can`t learn new tricks/ What I mean there is very useful thing called remote assistance,but I have to learn first how to start it...

[muungwana]

you did not let the command finish and the info it gives doesnt say where most of the disk space is going to. A command finishes when it return to the prompt and allow you to type another command

log files could fill up your hard drive if too many error or warning messages are generanted

check how big "/var/log" folder is and delete its contents if its too big

ps:
you dont have to take a picture of a commandline outputs, you can just copy and paste the output here. Most people are GUI oriented but sometimes the terminal is more accurate in getting system info and changing settings.

forum rules demand you post one support question per thread

[ross.m]

Thanks,Muungwana for reminding me about tread rules,I mist that particular one.Thanks for guiding me through the problem,I fond out /var/log is only 4.1M and obviously is not the point.I just have no idea about is 7G enough or too much for a normal PCLOS
6,6M    /bin
6,4M    /boot
76K     /dev
47M     /etc
1,5G    /home
8,0K    /initrd
61M     /lib
16K     /lost+found
156G    /media
4,0K    /mnt
20K     /opt
0       /proc
123M    /root
13M     /sbin
0       /sys
2,9M    /tmp
3,1G    /usr
154M    /var
161G    общо
 общо means general

[muungwana]

nothing seem out of the ordinary, do you have your home directory in the same partition as your root? what does command "df -h" give you?

you might need to remove programs that take up large disk space to free up more space, if you go to synaptic, you can arrange programs according to how much disk space they take and you can remove larger ones you dont need

10G should be adequate if you dont have home partition on the same partition as root

most installed programs go to /usr and the size of your /usr seem reasonable, i have installed a lot of junk and my /usr only takes 4.5G and my 10GB root partition seem to be adequate for my use

[ross.m]

Hi,muungwana and thanks,
 Here is what "df -h" returns,I hope you can intuitively navigate in the Bulgarian text:
[root@localhost gost]# df -h
Файлова с-ма        Размер Заети  Своб Изп% Монтирана на
/dev/sda6             7,8G  5,0G  2,5G  68% /
none                  1,7G  1,4M  1,7G   1% /tmp
 and as it seems my /home is in the same partition as /
 However I`v got an empty partition of ~10G in the start of the hdd,maybe left after earlier distro - slackware as I remember- which I can use.
 Meanwhile I am stack with the upgrades between kde3 and kde4 so I am going to reinstall PCLOS 2009.2 ,but this time I will separate "home" and "root".Maybe you can have a look on the snapshot of my hard and tell me is it a good idea?
Regards-Rumen   

[ross.m]

By the way,is it possible to invite someone to connect remotely to my comp for better understanding and is it effectively done through internet to do so?

[muungwana]

yes, its possible but you will have to first punch a hall on your firewall if you want your computer to be access from the internet. How do you go online? do you have a router or is your computer directly connected to the net?

how big is your hard drive, how have you partition it? it is always advised to have /home in a partition different from root's