Tutoring to install rpm

[Ditzian]

This is a request for handholding.  I downloaded two rpms from the American Radio Relay League, which recently acknowledged the existence of Linux.  I have never installed an rpm, and I suspect that it is unlikely that I will find these programs in the repositories very soon.  I found some info on the internet, followed it, and still have no clue as to how to run these programs, or whether I succeeded in doing anything. 

I accept the fact that PCLinuxOS strongly recommends avoiding non-repo programs, but I have no choice.  If there is a different forum or site to handle this, I will be happy to move there.

I actually need very careful supervision on this, because I have no idea of the steps required.

Thank you,

Jan, KX2A

[tedlane]

Well, to cut a very very long post short.

1) Backup
2) Forget the rpm and install from source
3) The advanced forums can help.

But, just as a matter of interest. Why do you have "no choice"?

ted

[Old-Polack]

This is a request for handholding.  I downloaded two rpms from the American Radio Relay League, which recently acknowledged the existence of Linux.  I have never installed an rpm, and I suspect that it is unlikely that I will find these programs in the repositories very soon.  I found some info on the internet, followed it, and still have no clue as to how to run these programs, or whether I succeeded in doing anything. 

I accept the fact that PCLinuxOS strongly recommends avoiding non-repo programs, but I have no choice.  If there is a different forum or site to handle this, I will be happy to move there.

I actually need very careful supervision on this, because I have no idea of the steps required.

Thank you,

Jan, KX2A

The easiest way is through kpackage. Right click the package, and select Open With --> Kpackage. Leave the default settings and just click install, than install again. You'll be asked for the root password, give it, then watch the installation information. If it ends in 0 the installation was a success. 1 indicates a failure, but should also give a meaningful error message, telling why it failed, and what's needed for success. If kpackage is not installed, install it through Synaptic.

[Was_Just19]

Just to clarify ........ there is a "Test Install" option which can be used first to determine if the install will be successful if attempted. I suggest that be used before an actual install is attempted.

[wedgetail]

I just checked in synaptic, I did not have it installed and when installing my VariCAD I did the longhand rpm thing  .  I am going to try this.

If you need to install look for: kdeadmin-kpackage (or make sure you use search under synaptic, it is there)

Manager for DEB, RPM.
Kpackage is a package manager that is integrated into the K Desktop
Environemnt.  It works with the KDE File Manager to manage DEB, RPM
and Slackware tgz software packages.

JohnBoy
Yes that is correct but do you not need to do the longhand thing for that? I am guessing that what old-polack is suggesting is testing (0 and 1) call it the gui version. If Jan needs a bit of hand holding I think it is best to wait with the longhand thing    I wish I had remembered kpackage, I knew of it (long ago = about 24 months)

[Ditzian]

But, just as a matter of interest. Why do you have "no choice"?

ted

The program is used to upload data to a collective database known as Logbook of the World.  For security reasons, it must be used.  I have a Windows machine for the  original Windows version, but I really want to use Linux.  So, I guess I do have a choice--abandon Linux and use Windows.

Jan

[Was_Just19]

@ wedgeling

not sure what you are asking .....

Kpackage is a GUI tool.
When attempting to install an RPM using this tool the user has the option to tick a box which will cause Kpackage to do a 'dry-run' of the install and report back an error number or a zero(=success).

If the dry-run is successful then the RPM can be installed by unticking the 'test' box and clicking on Install again; if not then do not install it until the cause of the error has been dealt with.

regards.

[wedgetail]

JohnBoy
Sorry, I was writing from assumptions, I should have installed kpackage and tested. I jumped to conclusion you were talking about the rpm longhand way which has a test similar to what you are describing.  I have avoided printing the actual longhand here to avoid confusion.

Are we still friends    I will keep my nose out.

[Was_Just19]

JohnBoy
Sorry, I was writing from assumptions, I should have installed kpackage and tested. I jumped to conclusion you were talking about the rpm longhand way which has a test similar to what you are describing.  I have avoided printing the actual longhand here to avoid confusion.

Are we still friends    I will keep my nose out.

Hehe .... NP mate ..... I just was not understanding your post so gave the explanation in the hope it clarified things.   

I wouldn't know the longhand way if it upped and bit me!   

[YouCanToo]

This is a request for handholding.  I downloaded two rpms from the American Radio Relay League, which recently acknowledged the existence of Linux.  I have never installed an rpm, and I suspect that it is unlikely that I will find these programs in the repositories very soon.  I found some info on the internet, followed it, and still have no clue as to how to run these programs, or whether I succeeded in doing anything. 

I accept the fact that PCLinuxOS strongly recommends avoiding non-repo programs, but I have no choice.  If there is a different forum or site to handle this, I will be happy to move there.

I actually need very careful supervision on this, because I have no idea of the steps required.

Thank you,

Jan, KX2A

Go to the package suggestion area and make a request that the program(s) be added.  Be sure to follow the instructions for making the suggestion.

[YouCanToo]

But, just as a matter of interest. Why do you have "no choice"?

ted

The program is used to upload data to a collective database known as Logbook of the World.  For security reasons, it must be used.  I have a Windows machine for the  original Windows version, but I really want to use Linux.  So, I guess I do have a choice--abandon Linux and use Windows.

Jan

Why all the drama?  "So, I guess I do have a choice--abandon Linux and use Windows."   Where is there choice in that 

[Ditzian]

But, just as a matter of interest. Why do you have "no choice"?

ted

The program is used to upload data to a collective database known as Logbook of the World.  For security reasons, it must be used.  I have a Windows machine for the  original Windows version, but I really want to use Linux.  So, I guess I do have a choice--abandon Linux and use Windows.

Jan

Why all the drama?  "So, I guess I do have a choice--abandon Linux and use Windows."   Where is there choice in that 

You are right, there is no choice.  That's why I asked for help in installing the program in Linux.

BTW, all, I have been overwhelmed by events.  I will take action on the recommendations on Sunday.  I am participating in NaNoWriMo, and it is using up all my free time and some of my not-so-free time.

Jan

[Ditzian]

The easiest way is through kpackage. Right click the package, and select Open With --> Kpackage. Leave the default settings and just click install, than install again. You'll be asked for the root password, give it, then watch the installation information. If it ends in 0 the installation was a success. 1 indicates a failure, but should also give a meaningful error message, telling why it failed, and what's needed for success. If kpackage is not installed, install it through Synaptic.

There is no folder or program named kpackage, either in Synaptic or on my computer; a search with file finder did not turn up kpackage.  The only kpackage I find is a folder in an old backup.  If I right click, I cannot find kpackage or anything like it when I browse through known programs.  It definitely is not in System > Configuration > Packaging, where I thought it would be.  The only kernel listed in Synaptic is 2.6.28.8.tex4, and it is marked as installed.

I guess I need more hand-holding than I thought.

Jan

[Old-Polack]

The easiest way is through kpackage. Right click the package, and select Open With --> Kpackage. Leave the default settings and just click install, than install again. You'll be asked for the root password, give it, then watch the installation information. If it ends in 0 the installation was a success. 1 indicates a failure, but should also give a meaningful error message, telling why it failed, and what's needed for success. If kpackage is not installed, install it through Synaptic.

There is no folder or program named kpackage, either in Synaptic or on my computer; a search with file finder did not turn up kpackage.  The only kpackage I find is a folder in an old backup.  If I right click, I cannot find kpackage or anything like it when I browse through known programs.  It definitely is not in System > Configuration > Packaging, where I thought it would be.  The only kernel listed in Synaptic is 2.6.28.8.tex4, and it is marked as installed.

I guess I need more hand-holding than I thought.

Jan

The package is kdeadmin-kpackage. Search for it in Synaptic. Be sure you have clicked Reload first, and have an up to date repo chosen.

[Ditzian]

O-P,

I had switched repos when there was a problem.  It turns out that the repo I was using did not have everything, or I had selected less than everything.  I switched back to the one at spout/ussg/indiana and there was a bunch to download.  Now I will see if I can follow your instructions.

Thank you,

Jan