(SOLVED, possible hardware problem) reboot required?

[T6]

since i changed my pc(my previous mainboard died) i installed pclinux 2009.1, checked and verified(iso and ram), i updated it and used it properly with hardware functioning properly but since the beginning i had a really very weird problem

it is so specific that i had to test the pc for a month to replicate the problem consistently

if i start the pc and go directly to pclinux(on any of both available kernels) i need to restart pc(by log out and restart or press the reset button) or the system just hangs, no app related

i tested lots of apps and none seems to be the trigger(i discarded first compiz) but watch tv seems to speed up the problem(but the problem happens even with this app not running), around 5 to 10  minutes after the boot system just hangs, video dies but audio keeps working, no keyboard combination produces response but if i restart nothing of this happens

i can have the pc running for days without a problem if i restart as described

if i go to win xp first and then restart to linux the problem doesn't happen(and there is no problem on windows), i suppose because it is required a restart

my hardware specs

1.2 gbs of ram
semprom 2600
ati radeon 9200 using xorg drivers
msi K8M800

this board has onboard video, audio and lan card but since i have a agp card installed the onboard is disabled on bios automatically, pcc confirms this(only one agp present) and doesn't shows any problem

i can remember another problem with a similar board but the problem was that lan card refused to work until winxp start system first but i always have everything working without problems

any ideas?

[DeBaas]

Think of this scenario:
BIOS settings are PnP OS enabled.
In Windows the PnP settings are changed, after reboot the new settings are used by Linux.

So let's try PnP OS disabled in BIOS

Hope this helps.

Ed

[T6]

i never had thinked on such option and never set it to another value, i will try, thank you for answering

no luck, no suck option on bios(very bare bios)

all i could find was irq reserved but i will let that to auto, had lots of problems in the past trying to get irq for some old parts

[kjpetrie]

Curious one. Computer is unstable if started from cold, but OK if rebooted (whether from Win or Lin). Sounds as if something starts in the wrong order which configures hardware (loads firmware perhaps?) which isn't lost on reboot unless the power is turned off. But the configuration happens too late for the first boot to use it properly. On the second boot, it's already set up.

I haven't a clue what that could be, but maybe that'll give you a clue. I'd check service start order, but it could also be udev-related. Are there any error messages in dmesg or syslog?

[j-retired]

I have seen this too. One possibility to look at is whether the hard disk is spinning up quickly enough.  If the BIOS doesn't allow enough time, then you get a read failure and the thing just sticks.  If this is the problem, then if you press the on switch and hold the reset button for a few seconds (- or even just hold the "on" switch down for a few seconds, which usually inhibits the motherboard from starting its POST) the the first attempt at booting should then work.  I believe some BIOSes allow you to set a start-up delay, but I can't be sure. In my case I demoted the disk to back-up duty!

j

[kjpetrie]

Is no one reading what T6 wrote?

He says it does boot, but after about 10 mins use it hangs.

He also says the problem only occurs on the first boot if the first boot is into Linux.

So it's not the BIOS failing to find the hard drive and it's not Windows setting things up wrong. If he boots into Windows and then reboots into Linux it works OK.

At least, that's how I'm reading it.

[T6]

"udev-related. Are there any error messages in dmesg or syslog?"

it was my first idea, when i saw a slight delay after udev loads and then localhost reports in tex3, in tex4 this doesn't happen but eth0 takes more time

dmesg says(well doesn't say anything wrong to me)

Linux version 2.6.26.8.tex4 (root@localhost) (gcc version 4.1.1 20060724 (prerelease) (4.1.1-4pclos2007)) #1 SMP Fri Aug 14 05:54:23 CDT 2009
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000004fff0000 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 000000004fff0000 - 000000004fff3000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: 000000004fff3000 - 0000000050000000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 00000000fec01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000fee00000 - 00000000fee01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
Malformed early option 'acpi'
383MB HIGHMEM available.
896MB LOWMEM available.
found SMP MP-table at [c00f4e10] 000f4e10
Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 327664) 0 entries of 256 used
Zone PFN ranges:
  DMA             0 ->     4096
  Normal       4096 ->   229376
  HighMem    229376 ->   327664
Movable zone start PFN for each node
early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
    0:        0 ->   327664
On node 0 totalpages: 327664
  DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
  DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
  DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
  Normal zone: 1760 pages used for memmap
  Normal zone: 223520 pages, LIFO batch:31
  HighMem zone: 768 pages used for memmap
  HighMem zone: 97520 pages, LIFO batch:31
  Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP 000F8C80, 0014 (r0 VIAK8M)
ACPI: RSDT 4FFF3040, 002C (r1 VIAK8M AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD        0)
ACPI: FACP 4FFF30C0, 0074 (r1 VIAK8M AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD        0)
ACPI: DSDT 4FFF3180, 4EAA (r1 VIAK8M AWRDACPI     1000 MSFT  100000E)
ACPI: FACS 4FFF0000, 0040
ACPI: APIC 4FFF8080, 005A (r1 VIAK8M AWRDACPI 42302E31 AWRD        0)
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 3, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 low level)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 1 I/O APICs
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Allocating PCI resources starting at 60000000 (gap: 50000000:aec00000)
PM: Registered nosave memory: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000a0000 - 00000000000f0000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000
SMP: Allowing 1 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
PERCPU: Allocating 36552 bytes of per cpu data
NR_CPUS: 8, nr_cpu_ids: 1
Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on.  Total pages: 325104
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.26.8.tex4 root=UUID=a4257b7b-16bd-4ab4-a4e6-96cc77360a67 acpi=on resume=UUID=d0a88c70-faf3-48b3-ad0a-7b19e1708fb8 splash=silent vga=788
bootsplash: silent mode.
mapped APIC to ffffb000 (fee00000)
mapped IOAPIC to ffffa000 (fec00000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 16384 bytes)
Detected 1599.884 MHz processor.
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
console [tty0] enabled
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 1292628k/1310656k available (2305k kernel code, 16712k reserved, 805k data, 284k init, 393152k highmem)
virtual kernel memory layout:
    fixmap  : 0xfff4d000 - 0xfffff000   ( 712 kB)
    pkmap   : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000   (4096 kB)
    vmalloc : 0xf8800000 - 0xff7fe000   ( 111 MB)
    lowmem  : 0xc0000000 - 0xf8000000   ( 896 MB)
      .init : 0xc0411000 - 0xc0458000   ( 284 kB)
      .data : 0xc0340759 - 0xc0409d00   ( 805 kB)
      .text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc0340759   (2305 kB)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...Ok.
CPA: page pool initialized 1 of 1 pages preallocated
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3203.95 BogoMIPS (lpj=6407905)
Security Framework initialized
SELinux:  Disabled at boot.
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 128K (64 bytes/line)
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 16k freed
Early unpacking initramfs... done
Freeing initrd memory: 1862k freed
ACPI: Core revision 20080321
ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found.
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=0 pin2=0
CPU0: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2600+ stepping 02
Brought up 1 CPUs
Total of 1 processors activated (3203.95 BogoMIPS).
net_namespace: 660 bytes
NET: Registered protocol family 16
No dock devices found.
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb140, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1 for base access
Setting up standard PCI resources
ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 *10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 *11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *5
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK0] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 3 4 6 7 10 11 12) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] (IRQs *20)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] (IRQs *21)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] (IRQs *22)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] (IRQs *23)
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
ACPI: bus type pnp registered
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 10 devices
ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
ACPI: RTC can wake from S4
system 00:00: iomem range 0xd0000-0xd3fff has been reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xf0000-0xf7fff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xf8000-0xfbfff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xfc000-0xfffff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0x4fff0000-0x4fffffff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xffff0000-0xffffffff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0x0-0x9ffff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0x100000-0x4ffeffff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xfec00000-0xfec00fff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xfee00000-0xfee00fff could not be reserved
system 00:00: iomem range 0xfff80000-0xfffeffff has been reserved
system 00:02: ioport range 0x4000-0x407f has been reserved
system 00:02: ioport range 0x5000-0x500f has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xb78-0xb7b has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xf78-0xf7b has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xa78-0xa7b has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xe78-0xe7b has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xbbc-0xbbf has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0xfbc-0xfbf has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved
system 00:03: ioport range 0x290-0x297 has been reserved
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:01.0
  IO window: d000-dfff
  MEM window: 0xf8000000-0xf80fffff
  PREFETCH window: 0x00000000e0000000-0x00000000efffffff
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:01.0 to 64
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 8, 1048576 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536)
TCP reno registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16ac)
apm: overridden by ACPI.
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
type=2000 audit(1253695273.356:1): initialized
highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
msgmni has been set to 1762
Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 254)
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered (default)
PCI: VIA PCI bridge detected.Disabling DAC.
pci 0000:01:00.0: Boot video device
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xe0000000, mapped to 0xf8880000, using 3750k, total 131072k
vesafb: mode is 800x600x16, linelength=1600, pages=135
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:56cb
vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00c575f, set palette = c00c57ab
vesafb: pmi: ports = d010 d016 d054 d038 d03c d05c d000 d004 d0b0 d0b2 d0b4
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
bootsplash 3.1.6-2004/03/31: looking for picture...<6> silentjpeg size 29454 bytes,<6>...found (800x600, 29406 bytes, v3).
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 93x31
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
brd: module loaded
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
VP_IDE: IDE controller (0x1106:0x0571 rev 0x06) at  PCI slot 0000:00:0f.1
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKA] enabled at IRQ 20
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0f.1[A] -> Link [ALKA] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
VP_IDE: VIA vt8237 (rev 00) IDE UDMA133 controller on pci0000:00:0f.1
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe600-0xe607
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xe608-0xe60f
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: Maxtor 6K040L0, ATA DISK drive
hda: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: UDMA/133 mode selected
Probing IDE interface ide1...
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 80293248 sectors (41110 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda: hda1
ide-floppy driver 1.00
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
cpuidle: using governor ladder
cpuidle: using governor menu
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
registered taskstats version 1
Freeing unused kernel memory: 284k freed
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
usbcore: registered new device driver usb
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKB] enabled at IRQ 21
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.4[C] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: irq 21, io mem 0xf8101000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 8 ports detected
input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1
ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.0[A] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.0: irq 21, io base 0x0000e700
usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.1[A] -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.1: irq 21, io base 0x0000e800
usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.2 -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.2: irq 21, io base 0x0000e900
usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:10.3 -> Link [ALKB] -> GSI 21 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 5
uhci_hcd 0000:00:10.3: irq 21, io base 0x0000ea00
usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 5-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
SCSI subsystem initialized
Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
libata version 3.00 loaded.
sata_via 0000:00:0f.0: version 2.3
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0f.0 -> Link [ALKA] -> GSI 20 (level, low) -> IRQ 20
sata_via 0000:00:0f.0: routed to hard irq line 11
scsi0 : sata_via
scsi1 : sata_via
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xe000 ctl 0xe100 bmdma 0xe400 irq 20
ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xe200 ctl 0xe300 bmdma 0xe408 irq 20
ata1: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
ata1.00: ATA-7: Maxtor 6Y160M0, YAR51KW0, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 320173056 sectors, multi 1: LBA48
usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
ata2: SATA link down 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 0 SControl 300)
scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     ATA      Maxtor 6Y160M0   YAR5 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 320173056 512-byte hardware sectors (163929 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 320173056 512-byte hardware sectors (163929 MB)
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
 sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 >
sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
usb 5-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
usb 5-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
usb 5-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
usbcore: registered new interface driver wacom
wacom: v1.48:USB Wacom Graphire and Wacom Intuos tablet driver
ACPI: ACPI0007:00 is registered as cooling_device0
input: Power Button (FF) as /class/input/input2
Linux agpgart interface v0.103
agpgart: Detected AGP bridge 0
agpgart: AGP aperture is 128M @ 0xf0000000
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
input: Power Button (CM) as /class/input/input3
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
Linux video capture interface: v2.00
saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.14 loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 18
saa7130[0]: found at 0000:00:0a.0, rev: 1, irq: 18, latency: 32, mmio: 0xf8100000
saa7130[0]: subsystem: 1131:0000, board: Kworld/KuroutoShikou SAA7130-TVPCI [card=10,insmod option]
saa7130[0]: board init: gpio is 407f
saa7130[0]: Huh, no eeprom present (err=-5)?
usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
input: Logitech Logitech Dual Action as /class/input/input4
input: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [Logitech Logitech Dual Action] on usb-0000:00:10.1-1
input: KYE Systems Corp. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse as /class/input/input5
input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [KYE Systems Corp. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse] on usb-0000:00:10.3-2
All bytes are equal. It is not a TEA5767
tuner' 0-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (saa7130[0])
input: KYE Systems Corp. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse as /class/input/input6
tuner-simple 0-0060: creating new instance
tuner-simple 0-0060: type set to 17 (Philips NTSC_M (MK2))
saa7130[0]: registered device video0 [v4l2]
saa7130[0]: registered device vbi0
input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [KYE Systems Corp. Wireless Keyboard & Mouse] on usb-0000:00:10.3-2
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.4.3 2007-03-06 Written by Donald Becker
via-rhine: Broken BIOS detected, avoid_D3 enabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKD] enabled at IRQ 23
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> Link [ALKD] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23
eth0: VIA Rhine II at 0xf8102000, 00:13:d3:ae:e4:12, IRQ 23.
eth0: MII PHY found at address 1, status 0x786d advertising 05e1 Link 45e1.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [ALKC] enabled at IRQ 22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:11.5[C] -> Link [ALKC] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:11.5 to 64
rtc_cmos 00:05: rtc core: registered rtc_cmos as rtc0
rtc0: alarms up to one year, y3k
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
bttv: driver version 0.9.17 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.13.0-ioctl (2007-10-18) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
EXT3 FS on sda1, internal journal
loop: module loaded
Adding 3116568k swap on /dev/sda5.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:3116568k

is syslog, all i can see is tons of this

Sep 23 09:28:43 localhost kernel: DROPPED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:01:5c:31:54:82:08:00 SRC=5.22.0.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=380 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=55849 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=360
Sep 23 09:28:48 localhost kernel: DROPPED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:01:5c:31:54:82:08:00 SRC=5.62.176.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=56166 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=308
Sep 23 09:28:48 localhost kernel: DROPPED IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:01:5c:31:54:82:08:00 SRC=5.62.176.1 DST=255.255.255.255 LEN=328 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=56172 PROTO=UDP SPT=67 DPT=68 LEN=308

but in the date they only go to September 20, the file is now 8 mbs but other backups are 24 or more in size going to august 17 but in that date there was no internet so no lines like those

in user log, nothing weird i can see

[j-retired]

Is no one reading what T6 wrote?

He says it does boot, but after about 10 mins use it hangs.

He also says the problem only occurs on the first boot if the first boot is into Linux.

So it's not the BIOS failing to find the hard drive and it's not Windows setting things up wrong. If he boots into Windows and then reboots into Linux it works OK.

At least, that's how I'm reading it.

I hear what you say kj, but I have seen differences I cannot explain with machines running win & linux.  Admittedly much older than T6's unit, (old laptops in fact) but I'm suggesting that the delays built in to booting win and linux are different, or maybe it's something to do with WHERE win's boot sector always resides?
In any case I suggested an easy test, and if the test fails then I'm proved wrong,but if it works we have a sort of answer.

T6 - have you tried running a memory test? 1.2G is made up how? Are they different manufacturers?

j

[kjpetrie]

If you copy dmesg from a first boot into a file file1 and then from a reboot into another file2 and do a diff gile1 file2, do you see any differences?

I also notice this line in the memory check:

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Malformed early option 'acpi'
Wonder whether that's significant or just means "on" is not a valid parameter. The valid values for the acpi boot option according to http://www.cyberciti.biz/howto/question/static/linux-kernel-parameters.php are:

acpi=           [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
                        Format: { force | off | ht | strict | noirq }
                        force -- enable ACPI if default was off
                        off -- disable ACPI if default was on
                        noirq -- do not use ACPI for IRQ routing
                        ht -- run only enough ACPI to enable Hyper Threading
                        strict -- Be less tolerant of platforms that are not
                                strictly ACPI specification compliant.

                        See also Documentation/pm.txt, pci=noacpi

It probably falls back to default but may be worth changing to a valid value.

[T6]

"T6 - have you tried running a memory test? 1.2G is made up how?"

yes, i gave a full mentest86 two days ago, i had before 2 ddr, each 256mbs, i changed one for a 1 gb module the Monday night, full 1 hour test successful

the problem was present before and after the change so no memory related

i never played enough with acpi to know if i loose something if i disable it

"If you copy dmesg from a first boot into a file file1 and then from a reboot into another file2 and do a diff gile1 file2, do you see any differences?"

sometimes the system doesn't give me enough time to do this and sometimes i can do alot to burn, in one time the system hang after 30 minutes, it is always the same but if you are moving the mouse in the exact time, the cursor still works but totally slow

this inconvenient is really unique i must say 

[j-retired]

Errr..... Kick me if you said you already tried this, but I didn't find mention of removing the AGP video card and trying the on-board one?  If you haven't, it's worth a try - here's hoping!

j

[T6]

i will kick you for considering that      

i won't even think on that, a via S3 is a pita!(and don't want to damage 3d settings or xorg)

my main concern in the first place was that linux could recognize it but the bios detects the agp and shuts down the onboard one and nothing on pclinux control center suggest nothing near to the idea that the agp port could be the problem(or the video cards)
 
thank you for your ideas but don't worry too much, i don't turn off this pc very often    (that is why i complain 2 months after the installation    )

[T6]

"If you copy dmesg from a first boot into a file file1 and then from a reboot into another file2 and do a diff gile1 file2, do you see any differences?"

i was just trying this and the system decided not to fail...

is this normal?

wacom: v1.48:USB Wacom Graphire and Wacom Intuos tablet driver

i don't have that

i remembered something, sometimes when the problem happens, the boot process goes verbose with no theme, old style linux(i have set it to silent)

could this have something to do with the problem?

via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.4.3 2007-03-06 Written by Donald Becker
via-rhine: Broken BIOS detected, avoid_D3 enabled.

[kjpetrie]

Don't know for sure.

Have you tried the noapic and nolapic boot options?

[T6]

is that ad noapic to the boot line of the kernel?

no, never tried it and the last two time i started the system, it didn't happened

it seems that the system is happy making fun of me