LibreOffice Manager (lomanager)

[kjpetrie]

Yes, but what if the user wants to let it finish unattended and keep the packages?

I don't quite see the logic. It still stops at a box waiting for user input - just the next box asking about dictionaries, with the decision not to keep the packages already taken. I can't see what is gained - less than half a second I think, and busy people with multiple machines have to sit over the process to prevent it deleting the packages.

[The Chief]

For the 'unattended installation' folks, couldn't all the decision making be placed right up front, all the choices made immediately after launching the script? 

Launch the script, select the language, decide to keep or dump the rpm's, then let the actual installation proceed unattended.

That might make everyone happy...

[pinoc]

yeah, yeah, yeah...

[melodie]

For the 'unattended installation' folks, couldn't all the decision making be placed right up front, all the choices made immediately after launching the script? 

Launch the script, select the language, decide to keep or dump the rpm's, then let the actual installation proceed unattended.

That might make everyone happy...

If that is possible, I would be a good idea. We have installed Libreoffice a pair of days ago on someone else's machine after we installed PCLinuxOS on it (to replace a broken install of a distro that the name begins with a "k" and ends by "untu"). We have installed Lomanager 3 times, because 2 times something went wrong.

[pinoc]

don't see what is the problem to install lomanager, post the problems in broken packages. Will see what can be done about moving all decisions to the beginning of the script when I have time for that next week or so.
-p.

[melodie]

Hi,

Nothing is broken. It's just mistakes done by my companion who had never used it before. Nothing that needs a report... but the idea developed above seems good to me, as it may make it even easier that way.

Thank you very much for all.

[pinoc]

lomanager3.3.2-2 out with these changes:
- moved all decisions to the beginning of the script (after you select a language some info windows will still show but they autoclose after some secs)
- added: LO_OfflineInstall script + instructions are placed in the directory where the packages are saved, if saving packages was selected. I will not explain how to use this new script in order to test how many of you will actually read the instructions in this directory. 
-p.

[melodie]

Hi,

I have just tested Desmoric's translation for French for LOmanager. He has improved it a lot, and will submit it soon. During the test I did of his translations, I have re-installed, while reinstalling, I have used the option "keep packages in /tmp" and packages are there:

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[root@localhost LC_MESSAGES]# cd /tmp/
[root@localhost tmp]# ls
gpg-PlCeaS/       libgksu-uGNxMp/              LO-rpms/
gpg-TY6yDU/       lomanager-fr_FR.mo           xsulomanager*
hsperfdata_root/  lomanager-fr_FR.po
keyring-OQ634l/   Lomanager_traduction_fr.zip
[root@localhost tmp]# ls -l LO-rpms/
total 173880
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2191291 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-base-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7599306 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-binfilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  4915713 mars  16 03:02 libobasis3.3-calc-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12627282 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-core01-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   290137 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-core02-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  7091830 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-core03-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29694492 mars  16 03:05 libobasis3.3-core04-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16956992 mars  16 03:06 libobasis3.3-core05-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19355836 mars  16 03:00 libobasis3.3-core06-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3767079 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-core07-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     4731 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-draw-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1308803 mars  16 03:06 libobasis3.3-en-US-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    43779 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-en-US-base-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    32159 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-en-US-binfilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    65515 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-en-US-calc-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  9062563 mars  16 04:51 libobasis3.3-en-US-help-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    18720 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-en-US-math-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   369425 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-en-US-res-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     3326 mars  16 03:04 libobasis3.3-en-US-writer-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3381492 mars  16 03:00 libobasis3.3-extension-mediawiki-publisher-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    94269 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-extension-nlpsolver-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   866332 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-extension-pdf-import-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   357258 mars  16 03:01 libobasis3.3-extension-presentation-minimizer-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   787640 mars  16 03:07 libobasis3.3-extension-presenter-screen-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2041020 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-extension-report-builder-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1334996 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    46248 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-base-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    35925 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-binfilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    68847 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-calc-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10825957 mars  16 05:15 libobasis3.3-fr-help-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    19342 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-math-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   389965 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-res-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     3330 mars  16 03:40 libobasis3.3-fr-writer-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    57365 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-gnome-integration-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   532809 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-graphicfilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12458014 mars  16 03:04 libobasis3.3-images-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    91711 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-impress-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    93432 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-javafilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    15140 mars  16 03:05 libobasis3.3-kde-integration-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   346023 mars  16 03:02 libobasis3.3-math-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    47955 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-ogltrans-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  6030506 mars  16 03:05 libobasis3.3-ooofonts-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   180113 mars  16 03:03 libobasis3.3-ooolinguistic-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  5232460 mars  16 03:02 libobasis3.3-pyuno-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   388841 mars  16 02:59 libobasis3.3-testtool-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2651863 mars  16 03:04 libobasis3.3-writer-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    52791 mars  16 02:58 libobasis3.3-xsltfilter-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   466911 mars  16 03:01 libreoffice3-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   305294 mars  15 16:49 libreoffice3.3-mandriva-menus-3.3-202.noarch.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2004 mars  16 02:59 libreoffice3-base-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2001 mars  16 03:01 libreoffice3-calc-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  6496487 mars  16 03:05 libreoffice3-dict-en-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   315621 mars  16 03:03 libreoffice3-dict-es-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2144360 mars  16 03:03 libreoffice3-dict-fr-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2005 mars  16 03:00 libreoffice3-draw-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    19215 mars  16 03:03 libreoffice3-en-US-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root    19981 mars  16 03:40 libreoffice3-fr-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2023 mars  16 03:04 libreoffice3-impress-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2002 mars  16 03:03 libreoffice3-math-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  3881042 mars  16 03:01 libreoffice3-ure-1.7.0-202.i586.rpm
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root     2011 mars  16 02:58 libreoffice3-writer-3.3.2-202.i586.rpm
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root     1289 mai    3 08:50 LO_OfflineInstall.sh*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root      546 mai    3 08:50 ReadmeFirst.txt
[root@localhost tmp]#

After this, I tested "Quit", translation was fine. Then I tested "Uninstall" and translations where fine there too. Now I want to "Install", but the program didn't test if he found the packages in /tmp and he is re-downloading them all ? Couldn't it detect the packages in the /tmp directory and install them ? Additionnally, it just sent a window stating "in good French" that the download and install were interrupted. :-(

I have an additional question : where are the chains to translate that are relevant to the messages in the upper bar of the window, while performing installations ?

Thanks,
Mélodie

PS: just after, the next window displayed a message stating that it was now installed and available. Confusing... :|

[pinoc]

Hi melodie,

thanks for getting updated translations, please send me the po-file for inclusion in the next update. To your questions:
- reinstalled and packages are kept in /tmp/LO-rpms: ok
- uninstall and then install: tested and works as expected, don't know what you did to get an error, maybe you killed the script while it was running?
- lomanager will not test for existing packs in /tmp/LO-rpms: yes, because normally you do not need to install stuff twice on the same PC. The purpose of this directory is to keep the files for offline installation or installation on another PC and for this reason a self-explaining ReadmeFirst.txt and a LO_OfflineInstall.sh has been added and should be used from within this directory (as indicated in my previous post..)
- there is no need to translate the text in the upper bar of the window (LibreOffice Manager 3.3.2)
- as stated before, French translations can only appear on a French localized system.

have a nice day,
-p.

[melodie]

Hi pinoc,

Thanks for your explanations.

You can thank Desmoric who has done the translations (I just asked and tested), and get his files here : Re: Traduction lomanager en français

I have a new question : shouldn't theses ReadmeFirst and off line install script get translations too ?

Regards,
Mélodie

[pinoc]

Ok, got and will check the mo-file, thanks Desmoric!

I have a new question : shouldn't theses ReadmeFirst and off line install script get translations too ?

Well, if you want send me the translation of the ReadmeFirst.txt, then I will add it there next time.
regards,
-p.

[geoff]

hello geoff here again, i have the libre office without the GUI installer (as i would see it) for some reason, now prob i have found with trying to install using instructions in the readme is when it asks for password the root password is root and it says sorry try again , ive been at it for 3 or 4 days on and off,(accidentally killed the system 3 times now and resurected it once ) is this  an ' i need to change root password ' or a prob i have invoked, i open a terminal from the tools menu as right clik wont give me the option of terminal and it says

[geoffy@localhost LibO_3.3.2rc2_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US]$  sudo urpmi *.rpm
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:
i type root into password each time.
 also this one
[geoffy@localhost RPMS]$  sudo urpmi *.rpm
Password:
Sorry, try again.
Password:

also really slow on the 100's of pages of comands in nutshell book this time, still going, wont give up.

[pinoc]

Hi geoff,

don't quite understand what you are talking about, more details please:
1) libre office without the GUI installer : what is that? If you mean LO_OfflineInstall.sh then please read the ReadmeFirst.txt in the same directory.
2) the root password is root on the liveCD only, seems you have forgotten your own root password?
3) we do not use any of the following: LibO_3.3.2rc2, sudo, urpmi 

please read and follow the information here to install the latest version of LibreOffice in PCLinuxOS.
regards,
-p.

[geoff]

Thankyou pinoc, by gui i mean an easy install.exe in the file package, and yes i set the password to root, said bad password , have since reloaded the LOT fresh just to make sure of my sad package download choices, and set passwd to r00t,( zero zero ) also looking for the how to on geting the 'getopenoffice' off the desk again at the moment, running is a good pace for me though couldnt find the right backup files before reload, so down loaded fwbackups to see if i can use that, from the Synaptic fixed thanks again ( 4th time now ive fixed it ) for the fixes, taking time and reloads but im great with that now ( i think anyway ) LOL.

[pags]

Thankyou pinoc, by gui i mean an easy install.exe in the file package, and yes i set the password to root, said bad password , have since reloaded the LOT fresh just to make sure of my sad package download choices, and set passwd to r00t,( zero zero ) also looking for the how to on geting the 'getopenoffice' off the desk again at the moment, running is a good pace for me though couldnt find the right backup files before reload, so down loaded fwbackups to see if i can use that, from the Synaptic fixed thanks again ( 4th time now ive fixed it ) for the fixes, taking time and reloads but im great with that now ( i think anyway ) LOL.

1: Now that you've published your password for the world to see, change it! 
2: OpenOffice is no longer used by PCLinuxOS.  LibreOffice is.  You need to update first, then the LibreOffice script will be available (and work) see this: http://tinyurl.com/4fcgj4z (It's at the top of every forum page).

For a new install (currently):
1) Do the install
2) Fix the Package Manager (as noted in the links above)
3) Update fully, and reboot
4) Install any additional apps, including the LibreOffice information noted in pinoc's reply...