OK, still looking, but I just built, and installed them both, neither one showed up in my utilities folder, though they are both in my menu->system->configuration.
Nice trick with the icons, I expected to see them in the src.rpm, but they already exist, sweet.
OK, looking at the spec files, it appears that the entry in the utilities folder is put in /etc/skel which would indicate it will only appear in the utilities folder for newly created users, so, I will create a test user, and see if it is there.