Huge upgrade file, normal?

[grub]

Greeting again, this is not really a problem but a question on updating with synaptic.
After getting synaptic working again and downloading a file, I thought I would update my system by selecting "Mark all upgrades". Some 1.7 gigs worth of upgrades where selected amounting to over 700 files.
Is that normal for a first upgrade? Or did all non-installed files get selected for me?
I am using Full Monty 2012.09 which I assume is the latest version as that is the one being downloaded and I downloaded about a month ago.
Again, not making a fuss, just wondering.
Thanks again in advance.

[µT6]

this version has lots of things installed, so lots of things are updated, in pclinux we get updates almost weekly and each couple months we have big updates

the kde4 update is around 300 mbs, the other 1.4 gbs, no idea what it is

can you see the list of what is being updated?

something related to texlive or latex?

[tschommer]

If you haven't updated your system since installing FM 2012.09, the amount of 700+ packages is totally reasonable. It's been half a year, and there are many software packages that have been updated, be it for security or bug-fixing reasons or because of feature enhancements. Many package updates were requested, as were new applications.

Also, KDE consists of at least 218 packages (I just took a quick look at what packages in the repository have version number 4.10.1).

Users are usually encouraged to update once a week or so. If the time between updates is too long, it increases the risk that something could break. Not necessarily, but who knows.

If everything goes well (which I expect), you'd be better off updating regularly  

EDIT: µT6 was quicker (once again) 

[Ika]

I expereanced the same thig too. Am running the 2013.02 full version and the Update-notifier is set to a 12 hours notification. So evey time I see it warn me about updates am performing them.
Couple of days ago there were around 1,000 packages notified!!! In my two machines - 32 and 64 bits!!!
In one over 900 and in the oher over 1,100!!!
Found it a bit strange but I thought it might be some notification error...

[kjpetrie]

I would think upgrading 2012.09 to current will be very difficult. There have been many big changes since then, including QT and two or three KDE upgrades. You would be better just to leave it as it is until a new FM comes out and then re-install, having backed up your /home partition.

[grub]

I second that one jkpetrie. Just thought I would give it a go to see what would happen. Never seen so many error messages and not a thing worked until I rebooted.
Couldn't even copy and paste all the errors into text editor. Lesson learnt!

[pinoc]

if you upgraded regularly since 2012.09 then there is no problem. Also upgraded a FullMonty 2012.09 fresh install yesterday and that works fine, first thing though is to install the upgraded apt-sources-list, then refresh the package list and then go ahead.
Thinking of doing a new FullMonty 2013.04 sometime.
-p.

[Waldo22]

Thinking of doing a new FullMonty 2013.04 sometime.
-p.

In view of this, I would guess that "sometime" is not too far away. 

[menotu]

if you upgraded regularly since 2012.09 then there is no problem. Also upgraded a FullMonty 2012.09 fresh install yesterday and that works fine, first thing though is to install the upgraded apt-sources-list, then refresh the package list and then go ahead.
Thinking of doing a new FullMonty 2013.04 sometime.
-p.

Good idea - I'm sure that will be useful, but as others have mentioned updating regularly is good on so many fronts; One benefit of updating regularly - especially in the case of Full Monty - is not having to download the FM ISO which is approx 3.9GB

Now that the KDE updates (since KDE 4.6.5) have bedded down the updates have been less problematic.

Each KDE update (I think this is the correct sequence ? ) from 4.6.5 to 4.8.0 > 4.8.2 > 4.8.3 > 4.9.2 > 4.9.5 > 4.10.1  have been increasingly easier with far less (in my case zero) problems occurring;

From my perspective (and maybe others) the jump from 4.6.5 to 4.8.x was the most difficult but that was to be half expected jumping a few versions (with 4.7.x being missed altogether)

Also it's not only the 32bit version that needs to be updated but the 64bit one has to be done as well which I guess puts an even heavier workload on to the packagers (who I tip my hat to)

[pinoc]

From my perspective (and maybe others) the jump from 4.6.5 to 4.8.x was the most difficult but that was to be half expected jumping a few versions (with 4.7.x being missed altogether)

Also it's not only the 32bit version that needs to be updated but the 64bit one has to be done as well which I guess puts an even heavier workload on to the packagers (who I tip my hat to)

from 4.6.5 to 4.8.x was the most difficult because a) KDE changed the way they provided the sources and b) Archie & Daniel had to change all our SRPMS to suite the new setup; KDE on 32 and on 64 were packaged and maintained independently on 32 and 64. For 4.9.5 I merged the different setup on 32 and 64 into one single setup, this to eliminate potential error sources and to facilitate the KDE maintenance in general. When 4.10.1 came out I only had to implement the new KDE changes and then compile them on both platforms equally, so that took only 2 days instead of 2 weeks for 4.9.5.
Now with an uptodate KDE the next good window for a new FullMonty is after LibreOffice 4.0.2 is out... 
-p.

[menotu]

From my perspective (and maybe others) the jump from 4.6.5 to 4.8.x was the most difficult but that was to be half expected jumping a few versions (with 4.7.x being missed altogether)

Also it's not only the 32bit version that needs to be updated but the 64bit one has to be done as well which I guess puts an even heavier workload on to the packagers (who I tip my hat to)

from 4.6.5 to 4.8.x was the most difficult because a) KDE changed the way they provided the sources and b) Archie & Daniel had to change all our SRPMS to suite the new setup; KDE on 32 and on 64 were packaged and maintained independently on 32 and 64. For 4.9.5 I merged the different setup on 32 and 64 into one single setup, this to eliminate potential error sources and to facilitate the KDE maintenance in general. When 4.10.1 came out I only had to implement the new KDE changes and then compile them on both platforms equally, so that took only 2 days instead of 2 weeks for 4.9.5.
Now with an uptodate KDE the next good window for a new FullMonty is after LibreOffice 4.0.2 is out... 
-p.

That's sure is a huge difference - 2 days over 2 weeks.

And I agree that a recent KDE and LO offers good stuff for FM users.  That would make it about 6 months since last release -  2 a year release cycle seems about right..........