just17, as for your question
Why log in to the desktop as root and not as user?
at the end of the update that is what it told me to do under the url i quoted. so that is what I did, Yes i was booted in under my user name and pass, I went to the link and clicked on it and did as it ask. user name block which was root, and them My own root password.
Regards, and tks for the usual response.
Remember now I am running the latest full monty installed. But i am considering switching over to the newest KDE64 bit but have not yet. we will get into that one later.