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Offline dj_bridges

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Laptop Overheating
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:38:56 AM »
Have just recently noticed that my laptop is overheating - currently running at 92 degrees celsius, which I am sure isn't good for it. Have done some searches, but am a bit of a loss - it stays at this temp irrespective of the programmes that are running. The other night I shut everything down and it still stayed in the 80's.... Have tried the newer 3.2 kernel, but doesn't seem to affect it. Any other ideas before it melts???
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 06:44:32 AM »
Clean it out .......  and maybe renew the thermal paste .....  probably instruction videos on line for your particular laptop.

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2013, 09:00:28 AM »
check if fan and exhaust aren't cloggeed/blocked by dust...

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 09:01:06 AM »
Check if your CPU is running all the time with top clocking (performance) mode.

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2013, 09:42:59 AM »
Even if the CPU is running in full performance all the time, it should not be overheating like this.  When I transcode video on my Dell (transcoding is one of the more demanding tasks I do) the system goes to near-100% utilization, but does not get anywhere near this hot.

When it's doing nothing, the worst your temp should be is in the 35 - 45 deg C range, dependent on processor type.

Go look up the teardown instructions for your machine (try the vendor's website first).  These should address how to get at the heatsink, Follow the directions carefully, clean the fins carefully (so as not to bend or break fins), and DON'T lift the heatsink from the CPU unless you have the right stuff to replace the thermal coupling material.  Some vendors use paste, others use this phase-change material that can bond to the die of the CPU.  If it gets stuck tightly enough, you could damage your system trying to get it apart.  Go slowly, and don't pry on the sink trying to free it - you can strip the CPU out of the socket that way.

If your heatsink uses heatpipes (most of them do)  check for cracks or breaks, as these will impair the sink's efficiency.

What kind of machine is it we're talking about, anyway?  There may be a downloadable tech manual for it that shows the right way to do this, and tells you what sort of thermal coupling material is in use.

Easy does.  Take it slow and carefully, especially since it seems to be your first time through this.  That will get you there with success.

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2013, 11:44:29 AM »
Does it have the vents underneath? I had the same problem; heat was getting trapped underneath and rising back up into the laptop case.
I solved it by turning the laptop upside-down and using an external monitor and cheap Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse.
It does kind of turn the laptop into an underpowered, desktop but it is an option.
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 04:18:09 PM »
On most laptops (if not all) the vents underneath are the intake, with vents at the side or back as outlets. The problem is that when placed on a surface, these vents take in any dust on that surface, which builds up inside and blocks the airflow. If you put the machine on your lap, fibres from your clothes will be sucked in.

If the laptop needs inverting to work properly, either the fans are spinning in the wrong direction or a blockage causes air to flow in an incorrect path when they spin.
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2013, 09:28:51 PM »
I just thought of it as poor case design.
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2013, 02:36:39 AM »
Thanks for all the comments and advice - will open her up and see if there is anything obviously clogging things up. It is a pretty new laptop (prob 8 months old) so am surprised it may need cleaning out. Slowly does it I guess....
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2013, 07:43:03 AM »
Thanks for all the comments and advice - will open her up and see if there is anything obviously clogging things up. It is a pretty new laptop (prob 8 months old) so am surprised it may need cleaning out. Slowly does it I guess....

That should still be in warranty then. Are you sure you do not want to call them first?
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2013, 02:19:48 PM »
Thanks for all the comments and advice - will open her up and see if there is anything obviously clogging things up. It is a pretty new laptop (prob 8 months old) so am surprised it may need cleaning out. Slowly does it I guess....

That should still be in warranty then. Are you sure you do not want to call them first?

+1!!! 

Don't open that thing up until you have verified your warranty.  Doing so will almost certainly void any remaining warranty rights you have.  Prudence dictates you contact the vendor's customer service department before disassembly if you even suspect it still has a warranty.

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2013, 02:44:16 AM »
Thanks for all the advice. I ended up calling the supplier and they have taken it apart and cleaned out the fans, but unfortunately nothing seems to have improved. I'm not sure that technically the suppliers are that good, but there does seem to be something major wrong with this laptop - at 25% CPU usage the temperature is over 70 degrees C! By the way is it normal for X to take up 23% of the CPU at anyone time?

I also have switched to 64 bit PCLOS which absolutely flies - amazing job yet again by the devs! This also hasn't affected the temp much though....

Apparently they are going to renew the thermal paste, but am wondering whether new thermal paste can reduce the temp down to a reasonable level (no experience with this before). Anything else that I can try
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2013, 02:51:50 AM »
brand/model  of your laptop?

can it be that the readings you are getting are wrong?
with so high temperatures it should power off by itself...

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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2013, 03:29:48 AM »
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Apparently they are going to renew the thermal paste, but am wondering whether new thermal paste can reduce the temp down to a reasonable level (no experience with this before). Anything else that I can try

Yes thermal paste and how well it is working determines the temp of the CPU, amongst other things.
I am surprised they did not renew it when they cleaned it  :(

Check the BIOS for temp information ..... most of them report temps of CPU etc

You can check on a cold boot, and then after using it for some time, reboot into BIOS and check again, to see if BIOS is reporting excessive temps.

As luikki mentions, it is possibly a mis-calculation that is causing such high temps to be shown, so that should be eliminated first.
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Re: Laptop Overheating
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2013, 05:55:55 AM »
Unfortunately it seems to be real - PCLOS 32 and 64 bit and now Win7 all report temps in excess of 70 degrees C....

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