program times out, goes dead SOLVED!

[dougmack]

Two questions, OP: In the command line you posted, what goes in for {name}, and,
I do have a copy of 2012.12--do you trust it?  I don't want to go thru this mess again.  I'm pretty sure 2012.08 works.

--doug

[Old-Polack]

Two questions, OP: In the command line you posted, what goes in for {name}, and,
I do have a copy of 2012.12--do you trust it?  I don't want to go thru this mess again.  I'm pretty sure 2012.08 works.

--doug

Nothing goes in for name, enter the command exactly as shown. Copy the code in maroon and paste it into your terminal window, then press the Enter key. The list of installed applications will be generated in a manner that Synaptic can use to set the same packages for installation on the new installation.

Yes, I trust the 2012.12 image, but then again, I have had no problems with the 2013.02 image either, and it's already upgraded to the date of issue. Then again, (once more) a lot depends on the specific hardware one has. Everything that deals with my hardware, drivers and such, works right out of the box, except that I can't boot to a disk burned from any PCLinuxOS image. I have to use a liveUSB om a flash drive, which then works exactly as expected.

[dougmack]

This version seems to be flaky also.  I can't seem to get it to shut down. In addition, trying to apply the installed-packages, it fails with "Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first."
And the nvidia-settings didn't work, either.  I set it the same as before, but the cursor still flies off
screen to the right. I can temporarily fix it with Configure your Desktop>Display, but it won't hold thru
a restart. I may be able to get the fellow who fixed it for me last time to do so again--I thought I
had made a CD copy of the change, but the disk is blank. 
I really don't want to have to go to Mint, but it's beginning to look that way.  Their "political
correctness" crap just drives me nuts!  If I had any hair left, I'd tear it!

--doug

[dougmack]

AT least it doesn't time out. Have looked at the screensaver and power options, but it does not turn the monitor off, altho
it does seem to put the computer in some kind of sleep or hibernation (I don't know the difference). Will hang in there for a
while and report.

--doug

[dougmack]

I don't remember if I had a checksum on this download, as it was several months ago.  I've been playing with it for a while now, and
I guess I will have to live with the idiosyncrasies. It does not seem able to shut off.  I have got the nvida-settings routine to hold
the setup--for some reason, I wasn't seeing the part where it needs admin permission to write to xorg.conf, but now I have done
it under root. One way or another I will have the apps back, even if I have to install them systematically one-by-one from
Synaptic. (I will try making the list from this laptop, and maybe it will be happier.)  The only remaining item at this point then is
to make it turn the monitor off when it is in sleep/hibernate mode.

One other question: I would like to change the kernel to the pae kernel--which I can do from Synaptic, I know that--but I'd like
to then delete the non-pae, so as not to clutter up the boot screen with 4 or 5 PCLOS choices.  What's the best way to do that
without destroying something enroute?

Thanx for sticking with me thru this situation, fellas!  --doug

[bicol_willem]

After you booted up the new kernel successfully it is safe to have the old uninstalled. Do not install a new kernel and at the same time remove the old.

[GreggB]

I'm a bit of a late-comer to this thread but...

- I didn't see an answer to the REISUB question.

- I can "reliably" hang my system by setting the screensaver timeout to longer than the monitor sleep time-out. You might want to experiment with the various time-outs.

Gregg.

[dougmack]

Hey, GreggB, you hit it on the head!  I reset the timeouts for the screensaver and power saver, and it all works like it should!
Thank you!

I have since discovered another problem:  no sound.  It's not the hardware, Mint sound works fine on this machine.

Partial answer to a q. about checksums:  I actually downloaded the LIveCD twice, for some unknown reason. I don't have
the source iso files for both, but I have two DVDs. Is there an easy way to get a checksum for each of them and compare them?
If they are different, I will have a problem--I won't know which (if either) is correct. If they are the same, I will assume that
both are correct.

--doug

[pags]

I take it you're referring to having copies on physical DVD, but the ISO files are gone...

An ISO is an exact image of the optical disk (CD or DVD), so you can, with the disk inserted in the drive, treat it just like the file (that's also one of the benefits of Linux's UNIX-like implementation..."everything is a file").

So, for a DVD inserted in the drive, it should be accessible through /dev/dvd.  You can do a

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md5sum /dev/dvd
and this will produce an md5 result.  The value should match, exactly, what you would have gotten from the ISO file.

Also, if you're interested, you could re-create the ISO file with

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dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/image/file.iso bs=2048


[dougmack]

Thank you, Pags.  The check-sums are identical for both disks, so I must believe that they are accurate.  That leaves the sound problem.
Before this, it "just worked." As it does on the laptop, and on this machine in Mint. There are two sound decoders in this machine, one on the mobo which feeds the speaker output, and the other on the Nvidia card, which feeds the HDMI port (only.) I never had a problem with this
before, but could there be some kind of interaction?  (There is no sound or video on the TV, but I would not really expect video, since I
have run the nvidia-settings to have only one display.) I have always used the default sound--alsa--and every time I fooled with pulse-audio I wound up with no sound, so please don't suggest that!
Does anyone know if the sound should work from the LiveDVD?  I will try that and report.

--doug

[dougmack]

Answering my own question: From the 2012.12 DVD, the sound does NOT work--there is no "Blang" when it boots, and from the
Internet, Youtube sound does not play.  From a 2010.10 CD, sound DOES work--the "Blang" and the Youtube. I don't know what
this proves, but there's the information.
FWIW, the computer does not shut off from the 2010 disk either.

--doug

[pags]

Answering my own question: From the 2012.12 DVD, the sound does NOT work--there is no "Blang" when it boots, and from the
Internet, Youtube sound does not play.  From a 2010.10 CD, sound DOES work--the "Blang" and the Youtube. I don't know what
this proves, but there's the information.
FWIW, the computer does not shut off from the 2010 disk either.

--doug

Not sure what to make of that, either...what are the results of these two commands, from each environment?

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lsmod


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lspcidrake


[dougmack]

I have run the commands lsmod and lspci  under three situations: the installed 2012.12, the DVDLive 2012.12, and the CDLive 2010.10.
The outputs are a bit large. Shall I post them here, or is there some way to attach a zipped version and send it either to the list or to
you, Pags?
--doug

[JohnW_57]

I have run the commands lsmod and lspci  under three situations: the installed 2012.12, the DVDLive 2012.12, and the CDLive 2010.10.
The outputs are a bit large. Shall I post them here, or is there some way to attach a zipped version and send it either to the list or to
you, Pags?
--doug

www.pastebin.com ?

JohnW

[dougmack]

OK, Pastebin.  I hope I have it right, I never used it before. There are 6 files, all zipped. The Pastebin title is dougmackinfo.
The filenames are:

1010lsmod.gz
1010lspcidrake.gz
1212lsmod.gz
1212lspcidrake.gz
2-13lsmod.gz
2-13lspcidrake.gz

The files starting with 2-13 are from the installed system. The files starting 1212 are from the 2012.12 DVDLive,
and the files starting with 1010 are from the 2010.10 CDLive.

Please advise if you get them OK.

--doug