the android train

[Rudge]

No! Boo!

This thread is too long and boring.  We need starfish and unicorns.!!!  





I couldn't find a picture of a real unicorn so I posted this pretend one instead. It's very tiny and you need a magnifying glass to see it. LOL

[ruel24]

ios is doing fine but not that fine for the moment, us is a big market but europe and asia is bigger and more important for the moment

The US is 1/3 the entire world consumer market. It's roughly equivalent to the entire continent of Europe's market share of the world consumer market. The entire rest of the world, including Asia, South America, and Africa, is the last 1/3.

[µT6]

and that makes us only one third of the market, the other two thirds doesn't move according to that one third

i said that companies are making products for those two thirds ad not only for that one third, why do you make that explanation about your one third?

[Just17]

This one could do with a thread of its own ........  very very impressed with the video of this app ....

Beginners Guide to Android Tasker | Part 1 of 3

[Tony]

It's difficult. So much technology, ...

By the way I'm really interested to know if anyone has directly had any problems with Google using Data they've gleaned off your 'habits' online ?

Maybe a Poll ?

[ruel24]

and that makes us only one third of the market, the other two thirds doesn't move according to that one third

i said that companies are making products for those two thirds ad not only for that one third, why do you make that explanation about your one third?

I'm pointing out how concentrated the market is in one country, and how important that market is. It takes the entire rest of the world, besides Asia, to add up to just how much consumption the US does. Being that Apple has regrabbed the top spot here is an important feat, since they basically have one product to sell. Europe may follow.

[µT6]

europe is not following, that is the problem they have now

they only have one solution and it is not working for everyone, they need desperately another option and it is not a ipad with 128 gbs of storage

a important part of the market likes iphone, that is known but the rest of the work won't pay the money it costs so it is a very limited product, the other part of the world, well, the world except that market likes other things so they have to offer it or face the results that blackberry suffered, they oriented to one part of the market and that took them to their terrible state in a couple years

[ruel24]

The only mistake they made was aligning themselves with exclusive carriers, at the time, because they didn't see Schmidt and Google ripping them off, like they did. Android was in all carriers and it helped make them widespread. However, the profits they made through subsidization by being carrier exclusive would make any CEO jealous. Now, Android users see Android phones as good enough and don't care their hardware is inferior, they're exposed to virus/malware/trojans, or that their apps are mostly inferior. Heck, even Google's own apps look better in iOS, with the exception of Google Maps because of the missing navigation.

[µT6]

"The only mistake they made was aligning themselves with exclusive carriers"

it had its pros and cons, it worked well for them, as a experiment to see how the product reacted to a small market, when it was good for most users it became available on more carriers subsidized, something natural

"Now, Android users see Android phones as good enough and don't care their hardware is inferior"

the specs of any of the recent phones released by motorola, sony, samsung and other companies easily surpasses the quality and power of iphone 5 in most aspects, that is why smasung galaxy SIII is doing that well

"they're exposed to virus/malware/trojans, or that their apps are mostly inferior. Heck"

if you say that ios apps are better than apple apps, i think you are wrong, i run the same apps in my android that i used to test in any iphone i used, if it is the same app, why would it be inferior

now, having virus, on linux, that is still a problem, even with root privileges, what you see is scams and annoying publicity and similar crap that has been available to apple in the past but perhaps better handled by them thanks to their extremely closed model that determines what is on their market and what not, something that doesn't work for everybody

"Heck, even Google's own apps look better in iOS, with the exception of Google Maps because of the missing navigation."

don't make me remember those weird results from apple maps, i still laugh at that burger king on a giant church or the map floating over the sea

the difference between a iphone and a android is mostly design and price

i prefer a xperia to a iphone, i know that i can fix the xperia if it breaks, while i can't fix the iphone because apple doesn't sell parts and the ones available made by other companies are not good enough to be considered

there is more to consider than some facts, it is a ecosystem and the iphone one has really big problems that can't/won't be fixed because are part of the product and the whole concept of the phone

[ruel24]

I'm just giving you a devil's advocate. I'm actually considering jumping to Android for my next phone - possibly a Samsung Galaxy S4 when it's released. My brother, and co-iPhone aficionado, had an iPhone, moved to a Droid X, and dumped it about 8 months later on his wife and got an iPhone 4S. He absolutely hated the Droid. He said the most simple things like getting his music in a certain order on the phone was impossible, while the iPhone was just a breeze. He also complained of his phone occassionaly slowing to a crawl and having to be reset by Verizon to get it back to normal. Android has come a long way since then. He's trying to convince me to stay with the iPhone, but honestly, I don't wear glasses, though I should, and my 44 year old eyes can't see the screen that well on the iPhone anymore. The Galaxy sized phone would be nice for me. But, I am happy with my iPhone. Maybe I should just get glasses? lol I'm really interested in possibly modding an Android phone in the future with Cyanogenmod, but Samsung phones have some nice features I wonder would go missing in a ROM like Cyanogenmod. I have time to think about it, so we'll see...

[µT6]

"He said the most simple things like getting his music in a certain order on the phone was impossible, while the iPhone was just a breeze. He also complained of his phone occassionaly slowing to a crawl and having to be reset by Verizon to get it back to normal."

most users complain because the cellhpne they buy doesn't have a good music player but they also forget that there is other audio players in the app store

it is hard or maybe impossible to convince a old time user to learn new tricks, especially when he is a mac fanboy

it is the same as the approach to linux is not windows, things must be different or we will end sued

i always find funny when people mention that iphones doesn't become slow after some time and have to be restarted or put in recovery mode to wipe the entire content and rewrite the os in the device to unbrick it again

motorola does some nice phones but their modifications to android have been popular for offering crappy experiences to the users(try not to touch motorola spice, horrible, just horrible), other companies offer simpler uis, developed to be faster when using limited resources or made to be reasonable with resources available

right now i have a hone with almost the same specs as your friend, with almost the same android version and it is very fast when i close all the crap i usually open but yes, restart the device is something you have to do at least each 2 weeks but sometimes i don't do it for a month or more

usually a memory manager or a battery manager gets things done for you, something i believe that should be done on a iphone too

about cyanogenmod, i only use it when the circumstances makes it viable, like when you have a old decent phone with a too old version or a really bad version of android, to make it live again

in a galaxy i wouldn't even consider on doing it, maybe rooting it to make deep changes to battery settings and remove some dumb apps i never use, but that is something i would decide after using the phone for some time

about the glasses, yes, a 4" screen is nice, a 5" screen is even better

but i wouldn't get something bigger than a galaxy note II but my eyes have other problems than just need glasses so each situation is different

[Tony]

"Heck, even Google's own apps look better in iOS, with the exception of Google Maps because of the missing navigation."

don't make me remember those weird results from apple maps, i still laugh at that burger king on a giant church or the map floating over the sea

Just reminded me of something quite odd. The police issued a warning for users of the new iPhone 5 were I live to not use the Apple MAPS!! People were finding themselves in the middle of paddocks, up the bush, everywhere but where they wanted to be, lost, and calling for help.        

[µT6]

i also posted that a error put a national park in australia some kilometers far from the destination in the middle of a desert, it is a shame that they offer that crap as a premium product

is as offensive as it is the xbox360, makes miserable the early adopters and later customers doesn't get a much improved experience either

[Just17]

It put an airport in the middle of a farm in Ireland .....  many miles from the actual airport 

[µT6]

some reports week ago said that to fix this crappy product they wanted to buy the mobile app waze and turn it into the new apple maps but they offered too little money

they were sure that in a couple months they could create something good but just by seeing the effort put by google to make this happen, the years of data recover and their app is still not perfect, they weren't thinking at all when that crap was released to the public, really shameful