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Happy Australia Day
« on: January 27, 2013, 07:05:23 AM »
Bit rough when you have to make the thread yourself, but obviously not the greatest event on everyone's calendar.

After a few weeks of intense Bushfires a lot of Aussies are doing it tough with extreme flooding over the last week, mainly up North.

Anyone experiencing hardship my heart goes out to you.

Officially Australia Day is the 26th of Jan, however falling on a Saturday this year it's also on Monday 28th, so you get an extra day off work, creating the great Australian 'Long Weekend'.

If you're not in Australia take it easy too, stress can be a killer.

On with the relaxation ...


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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 07:32:35 AM »
Hey Tony,

Good to see someone waving the flag  ;)
I'm not in Australia but I still get to experience it a little through my family and friends on F'book. Was able to watch the Aus. Open final tonight too on a live streaming site (cause I don't have a TV).

And, I usually have Monday off so that's a bonus.

Have a good one mate  8)

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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 07:46:06 AM »
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY to all our friends from that part of the world.

I was going to start a thread today about the floods but as it is addressed here, I will just also give my good thoughts to those who are suffering from the floods and the devastation that the fires brought.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 08:12:04 AM »
Thanks joechimp.
Yes, it seems there are a lot of people experiencing the wrath of Mother Nature right now in Australia; be it floods or fires. My heart and thoughts are with them too  :-\
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 12:38:04 PM »
To our cousins (and in my case, a brother) across the ditch (Tasman)

Happy Australia Day

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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2013, 08:29:13 AM »
Thanks timeth, joechimp, and jimwilk.
Bad things happen around the World regularly so no point in complaining, it does make you not take things for granted however.

I really feel for Queenslanders (North Eastern Australia) who have endured four years of flooding. It is a Tropical climate, however people have only just tidied up and it happens again. Heartbreaking. Some of the most fertile area on this Earth just washing down the rivers, and through major cities.

It's still fresh in my mind, the Black Saturday bushfires here in Victoria in 2011, claiming 173 lives. Descriptions of those fires are similar to what I imagine living through a Nuclear blast. We all looked on after the fires to see our whole state was gone, all fauna, and flora. People suffocated through the lack of oxygen, as they sheltered in what they felt were safe spaces.

Sorry bout that, it has become such a huge feature of living here; Flooding, and the Bush fires.
 
I feel a lot of thinking about where it is safe to live has become paramount, while infrastructure to relieve flooding, and better preparation of the land to try to stop the spread of fires into farmland has to happen.

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Was able to watch the Aus. Open final tonight too on a live streaming site (cause I don't have a TV).

Australian Open is always a great event, was good to see someone other than Roger Federer win this year.  :D
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Car coming out of the foam near police at the Sunshine Coast in Queensland Australia


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"As Queensland battles with the flooding and strong winds brought by ex-tropical cyclone Oswald, a huge stretch of the Sunshine Coast has been blanketed in foam.

The foam, swept on shore yesterday by Oswald's strong winds has lured curious onlookers, who are holding their own foam party and taking happy snaps inside the 'winter wonderland'."

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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2013, 10:13:59 AM »
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY to all our friends from that part of the world.

I was going to start a thread today about the floods but as it is addressed here, I will just also give my good thoughts to those who are suffering from the floods and the devastation that the fires brought.


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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 10:19:06 AM »
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 10:45:35 AM »
Shouldn't those Dolphins be upside down like everything in there? :P

Happy Australia day to You mate ;D

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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 04:14:31 AM »
Shouldn't those Dolphins be upside down like everything in there? :P

Happy Australia day to You mate ;D

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Just reporting about the darn weather here in OZ (Australia). It has become unfathomable. After the Northern States have been burnt to a crisp weeks ago, flooding has occurred, at 10 metres.  :o  >:(
This is a once in a Century event, according to the record books, however it happened last year.

Down South where I am in the state of Victoria we've had bushfires for a few weeks now.
Today in Melbourne, my City, it was really hot, now it's freezing cold and pouring with rain. Was watching TV and there's little messages going across the bottom of the screen to evacuate bushfire threatened areas, not that far away, 200 Km's.
 
This town is known for its erratic weather, so usually I wouldn't worry.
Seems now every summer is gonna be a bummer.
I just dunno anymore.

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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 07:03:03 AM »
It seems that natural disasters and extreme weather have become frequent in many parts of the world. What if this becomes the norm? Imagine how many millions of people's lifestyle will have to change. Think of the possibility that many areas of land become inhabitable because of the constant severe weather or fires ,floods etc.?
Whole cities and major land masses of small countries may become barren.
I know this is quite pessimistic but I see so much happening and so often that I sometimes wonder.
Let us hope that this is only a moment in time, and that things will become less destructive in the coming years.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 08:31:27 AM »
Thanks joechimp.
Yes, it seems there are a lot of people experiencing the wrath of Mother Nature right now in Australia; be it floods or fires. My heart and thoughts are with them too  :-\

To be completely honest, I think that the natural disasters down here are probably much less destructive than those in most of the nations on this planet. Yes, we do get bush fires (aka forest fires) & floods, but when compared to the rest of the world, the lost lives & damage to property is nowhere near that of natural disasters experienced elsewhere. Australia has probably lost less than 500 lives in the past 20 or 30 years to all natural disasters on this big continent. I know that sounds a lot, and one life lost to disaster is one life too many, but when you look at the number of deaths in the USA over the same period due to hurricanes (especially Katrina, Andrew & Sandy), earthquakes on the west coast, forest fires & severe cold spells including ice storms, Australia looks a pretty good place to be. Indonesia has huge floods, earthquakes & regular volcanic eruptions. China also gets big earthquakes, landslides & floods. Iran, Turkey & others in that area experience earthquakes killing tens of thousands at a time. Europe cops its fair share too - whether it be earthquakes & volcanoes in Italy or snow & flood in the UK. Africa suffers from severe droughts resulting in famine (plus all of the wars that have been fought there since the colonial powers left). South & Central America experience huge earthquakes. And, of course, our neighbours across the ditch, New Zealand, recently had an entire city flattened by an earthquake.

I'm a glass-half-full sort of bloke, and when I see these overseas disasters on the news almost every evening, I feel very fortunate that I live in a country where the natural disasters can often (though not always) be predicted & people can usually be evacuated beforehand. And our disasters are usually over fairly quickly - rebuilding & repairs can often be going on within a week of the disaster having hit.

Regarding the current floods, I have lived in Sydney for 47 years, and floods in Queensland & northern New South Wales are definitely not something new. What is new is the amount of saturation media coverage every severe weather event receives, and the panic that is induced by the 24/7 media. I think we have had 3 cases of "Armageddon" weather predicted by the media this month alone. Every time the temperature is going to be more than 33 degrees Celsius (91F) (it is Summer here) we are told that "catastrophic" weather conditions are approaching. Whenever there is a regular tropical storm up north all of our TV channels switch to 24-hour live coverage. You can actually see the immense disappointment on the reporters' & hosts' faces when nothing much is damaged or no-one dies. I would hate to be a kid growing up here nowadays - they must live in a state of constant anxiety due to the media's constant predictions of major catastrophe about to befall us.

Also, in the past 30 years many homes have been built on flood plains, which makes the impact worse. Floods have been such a regular occurrence in Queensland for the past couple of centuries that a form of architecture designed to deal with the floods was given the title of Queenslander (architecture). The living areas of the houses were upstairs where rising waters would not reach. If people living in flood prone areas have their living areas on the ground floor, then they really cannot complain when their lower floor gets flooded. There may some living in areas which normally would not have flooded except for changes in the shape or drainage of the land due to development, and I do feel sorry for people caught in that situation.

We do also have an excellent welfare system which usually has special cash payments in the bank accounts of impacted residents within a day or 2 of the disaster happening. Of course my heart still does go out to those who have been impacted, whether it be by the loss of a loved one, or the loss of a home, or the loss of sentimental possessions.

So, Australia is a land of droughts & flooding rains, but compared to much of the rest of the world we actually have it pretty good. I wouldn't live anywhere else for quids.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 08:37:00 AM »
It seems that natural disasters and extreme weather have become frequent in many parts of the world. What if this becomes the norm? Imagine how many millions of people's lifestyle will have to change. Think of the possibility that many areas of land become inhabitable because of the constant severe weather or fires ,floods etc.?
Whole cities and major land masses of small countries may become barren.
I know this is quite pessimistic but I see so much happening and so often that I sometimes wonder.
Let us hope that this is only a moment in time, and that things will become less destructive in the coming years.

My commonwealth buddies have got their share of crap happening.

We (in central Canada), on the other hand have our usual January.  January is the coldest month of the year around here.

May things change for the better for my Australian friends.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 09:40:32 AM »
seaeagle1965, I do think you make some very good points, especially about the Media coverage. Also it does amaze me at the low loss of life, which sounds a terrible thing to say, but we have a small population of around 22 Million people which is a factor maybe. With denser population we'd need better infrastructure, and therefore very different outcomes if Dams, Rivers, and flood plains are adapted along with housing. Local councils in Queensland shouldn't allow residential buildings on flood plains.

The floods in Queensland have reached 10 metres, in places. As a kid travelling through New South Wales I would see these posts with markings on them as we drove through. They were measures, to gauge the height of flooding. So it's not a new phenomenon.
A lot of people have lost there homes, Insurance companies have had to define the word 'Flood' in their policies, these are situations that are needing clarification. Zoning, and Insurance.

I do feel the fires we had here in Victoria in 2009, and 2011 were very scary due to the hot and windy conditions.
Background temperatures on Saturday, 7 February 2009 reached 46 degrees Celsius (115 °F) with 70 MPH winds.
Beyond the 173 deaths, 120 of them caused by a single firestorm, the fires destroyed over 2,030 houses and more than 3,500 structures, and damaged thousands more. Many towns northeast of Melbourne, the state capital, were badly damaged. Unfortunate communication to people in unsafe areas has a lot to blame. Fixing these practical issues will do a lot to minimise intense weather conditions causing harm.

However the theme being "Happy Australia Day", we won't dwell on these things.
There have always been very hot conditions in summer all over Australia, and always will be.

I don't know that anyone really understands the weather, but each day media try to predict it.  ;)

Certainly Australia is a very lucky country in general, you have to see it through your own eyes just like any other country, not take media reports for granted.
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My commonwealth buddies have got their share of crap happening.
I can't comprehend how cold -36C is but you organise to keep warm, knowing the cold will come each year.
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Re: Happy Australia Day
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 03:58:05 AM »
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Regarding the current floods, I have lived in Sydney for 47 years, and floods in Queensland & northern New South Wales are definitely not something new. What is new is the amount of saturation media coverage every severe weather event receives, and the panic that is induced by the 24/7 media. I think we have had 3 cases of "Armageddon" weather predicted by the media this month alone. Every time the temperature is going to be more than 33 degrees Celsius (91F) (it is Summer here) we are told that "catastrophic" weather conditions are approaching. Whenever there is a regular tropical storm up north all of our TV channels switch to 24-hour live coverage. You can actually see the immense disappointment on the reporters' & hosts' faces when nothing much is damaged or no-one dies. I would hate to be a kid growing up here nowadays - they must live in a state of constant anxiety due to the media's constant predictions of major catastrophe about to befall us.

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