Is PCLOS a TRUE rolling release?

[linuxpcplus]

Is PC LinuxOS a "True" rolling release? What about the Full Monty edition?
If so, how often are updates/upgrades made available?

[ghostbunny]

What's a "true" rolling release? this implies there is a "false" rolling release what would be that?

in fact pclos is a rolling release distro. it is possible to get an update everyday for a piece of software which depends on what you have installed and which packages are updated by the packaging crew.

or do you mean the release cycle of the full monty iso?

[DeBaas]

I used the FM from the beginning.
Even when advised to do a newinstall caused by distroying the desktop in a mayor update, I copied the backup from the old .kde map back and repaired the system without reinstalling. So yes I'm still rolling.

[linuxpcplus]

What's a "true" rolling release? this implies there is a "false" rolling release what would be that?

in fact pclos is a rolling release distro. it is possible to get an update everyday for a piece of software which depends on what you have installed and which packages are updated by the packaging crew.

or do you mean the release cycle of the full monty iso?

My apologies, let me be a bit more specific.
You have variants of rolling releases. For example LMDE is defined by most as a "partial" rolling release because updates are sent in "up" packages. It is not updated as much as say Arch, which is a "Full"  ("True") rolling release that gets updates typically weekly, sometimes more.

I want the latest, semi-bleeding edge software on my sysytem. By semi-bleeding edge I mean software that is relatively stable, more late beta stage than alpha or early really early beta. Does that make sense?

I hope this clarifies what I am asking. What end of this spectrum does PCLinuxOS & its sister FM fall in?

[Waldo22]

As I understand it, PCLinuxOS has always favored stability over "bleeding edge", semi or otherwise.  That is the reason most of us are here.  We like a system that is as trouble-free and stable as possible.  There are flashier distros out there, but none that offer better functionality on a day-to-day basis.  And yes, it is a rolling release.  Updates come out after extensive testing for functionality.  Hope this helps.

[dougmack]

The software in the PCLOS repos is not even close to bleeding edge.  It is as nearly stable as the devs can make it.  (Does not apply to externally provided s/w like Firefox and Thunderbird,
which are completely up-to-date.)  This is sometimes a bit aggravating, as you read about some features of newer releases, and those releases are not in the repos, but for the
most part, what you get in the repos works, which is nice!
If you want to live on the bleeding edge, perhaps you can get in on the testing group here on PCLOS.  Someone reading this can tell you how.

--doug

[RobNJ]

It's a true rolling release, of stable. non-bleeding edge software. The best of both worlds! (In MY sometimes-less-than-humble opinion!  )

[linuxpcplus]

The software in the PCLOS repos is not even close to bleeding edge.  It is as nearly stable as the devs can make it.  (Does not apply to externally provided s/w like Firefox and Thunderbird,
which are completely up-to-date.)  This is sometimes a bit aggravating, as you read about some features of newer releases, and those releases are not in the repos, but for the
most part, what you get in the repos works, which is nice!
If you want to live on the bleeding edge, perhaps you can get in on the testing group here on PCLOS.  Someone reading this can tell you how.

--doug

Getting in on testing branch would be SWEET! If anyone can tell me how!?!

[JohnW_57]

The software in the PCLOS repos is not even close to bleeding edge.  It is as nearly stable as the devs can make it.  (Does not apply to externally provided s/w like Firefox and Thunderbird,
which are completely up-to-date.)  This is sometimes a bit aggravating, as you read about some features of newer releases, and those releases are not in the repos, but for the
most part, what you get in the repos works, which is nice!
If you want to live on the bleeding edge, perhaps you can get in on the testing group here on PCLOS.  Someone reading this can tell you how.

--doug

Getting in on testing branch would be SWEET! If anyone can tell me how!?!

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,104577.0.html

JohnW

[JohnW_57]

It's a true rolling release, of stable. non-bleeding edge software. The best of both worlds! (In MY sometimes-less-than-humble opinion!   )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release#Part-rolling_distributions

Part-rolling distributions

    Partly rolling distribution with a more stable non-rolling fixed core. Examples are PCLinuxOS, Chakra Linux and Aurora OS.
    Partly rolling distribution with a non-rolling fixed wrapper around a rolling core. An example is Toorox Linux.
    Partly rolling distribution which mixes rolling and non-rolling development models. Examples are PCLinuxOS, Chakra Linux, Aurora OS and Toorox Linux, but also (to a much lesser extent) distributions like Fedora and another distro which allow rolling upgrades between releases (instead of re-installing) and try to supply the latest stable application releases — however, Fedora and another distro are not currently listed as rolling distributions in this article, since (although they are both capable of rolling software upgrades) they do not (as of March 2012) use a rolling release software development model.

This happened 2 or 3 times since 2004 to need to break the rolling release.

JohnW

[MGBguy]

I appreciate stability!  Others may complain that PCLinuxOS is not cutting edge.

Well, go elsewhere, or build your own distro.

[linuxpcplus]

I appreciate stability!  Others may complain that PCLinuxOS is not cutting edge.

Well, go elsewhere, or build your own distro.

I see your point & respect your view. But keep this in mind: if you didnt have folks like me or the many PCLOS, Arch, Gentoo, etc testers who are willing to accept some risk, you would never get a stable release. Testing the bleeding edge is a vital part of building a stable, solid, and secure operating system. Those unstable bleeding edge packages have to be tested to be fixed & thus become stable. Without this essential step, you would be using 15 year old software on a brand new computer. Not really workable is it?
So it is not really fair or smart to tell someone to "Well, go elsewhere, or build your own distro." if you value stability!

[Crow]

linuxpcplus  not bleeding edge, period.

Highly stable, that (and the excellent forum) is what keeps me here. I know some are enjoying the 64 bit version and say "look at me, it's stable" but it has not being released so I guess is not PCLinuxOS Standards stable.

My PCLinuxOS, LXDE version is installed in the computer I use everyday (8:00 to 18:00) at work, and that's because I know it simply works, I don't have time to fight with the OS or the programs to get things done or pull my hair because a glitch (or God forbid, a virus) avoids the use of a program or bans the access to a file.

So, you're right, testers are very valuable in this process, wish you the best luck in that adventure.

[µT6]

everything has a place

pclinux is a place for rolling release with really high stability, good stuff

other distros focus on other things, that is ok for others but not for us, if you can accept that, this will be your distro, if not, you can become a tester and help packaging stuff for us, that way you have pclinux and help us have bleeding edge after you test it and make it secure for us

if none of those options are enough, then, pclinux will not be your only distro and you will end dualbooting with other distro that offers you what you want

[Rudge]

I appreciate stability!  Others may complain that PCLinuxOS is not cutting edge.

Well, go elsewhere, or build your own distro.

I see your point & respect your view. But keep this in mind: if you didnt have folks like me or the many PCLOS, Arch, Gentoo, etc testers who are willing to accept some risk, you would never get a stable release. Testing the bleeding edge is a vital part of building a stable, solid, and secure operating system. Those unstable bleeding edge packages have to be tested to be fixed & thus become stable. Without this essential step, you would be using 15 year old software on a brand new computer. Not really workable is it?
So it is not really fair or smart to tell someone to "Well, go elsewhere, or build your own distro." if you value stability!

I should stay out of this thread,,,, really. Stay out Rudge!

Can't do it,, crap.  

linuxpcplus, First, you did not state nor did you imply that YOU were in anyway, a "Tester" of "PCLOS".

Second, I really hope that you are not trying to imply that any of the members of this forum do not fully appreciate the sacrifices and work that everyone does behind the scenes here at this distro.

If you do indeed become a valued "tester" for the distro, your work will be greatly appreciated I assure you of that but do not dismiss valid advice from, or make threats to, the members of this community.

With Love,  Rudge