installing kernel 3.8 RC

[geraldw321]

hi there  i just DL'd  linux kernel 3.8 RC too try  but its in     linux-3.8-rc4.tar.bz2      Tarball format?   how would i extract this  and install it ??     to test ?     

 and  i have seen mention of making changes to menu.lst files  but im not quite sure what changes and what for ?

  i am under the impression  menu.lst is for grub and lists the kernels and boot order stuff ?   correct?   i am searching for answers and slowly getting an idea of what i need to do  , but not getting all the info i need .


thank you

[menotu]

hi there  i just DL'd  linux kernel 3.8 RC too try  but its in     linux-3.8-rc4.tar.bz2      Tarball format?   how would i extract this  and install it ??     to test ?    

 and  i have seen mention of making changes to menu.lst files  but im not quite sure what changes and what for ?

  i am under the impression  menu.lst is for grub and lists the kernels and boot order stuff ?   correct?   i am searching for answers and slowly getting an idea of what i need to do  , but not getting all the info i need .


thank you

Hey geraldw321

Not easy to reply in this manner - and probably not what you wanted to hear - but if your knowledge is sketchy on tarballs and grub / menu.lst stuff I doubt that your current skill-set is up to adding/compiling something as tricky as a kernel as it's not as straightforward as installing "regular" apps.

No doubt you could do it but you may need step-by-step instructions

[AnotherUser]

I'm afraid I have to agree with Menotu here. The best I can suggest for a How-To is my earlier post in this section - http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,111966.0.html . However, if that level of detail is insufficient, then I'm afraid you're taking on a bit too much.

P.S. the hard part about compiling a new kernel is not the mechanics of what to execute when, it's how to configure the kernel. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of configuration options. Most don't make any sense unless you've spent weeks or months researching them. It's not exactly something you can just dive into on on your own without prior knowledge

P.P.S. Starting with 3.6 kernels, many of the Audio/Video driver configurations have changed, which means that even the 3.2.18 starting point of your current PCLOS kernel is not exactly a perfect starting place.

[geraldw321]

I'm afraid I have to agree with Menotu here. The best I can suggest for a How-To is my earlier post in this section - http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,111966.0.html . However, if that level of detail is insufficient, then I'm afraid you're taking on a bit too much.

P.S. the hard part about compiling a new kernel is not the mechanics of what to execute when, it's how to configure the kernel. There are thousands, if not tens of thousands of configuration options. Most don't make any sense unless you've spent weeks or months researching them. It's not exactly something you can just dive into on on your own without prior knowledge

P.P.S. Starting with 3.6 kernels, many of the Audio/Video driver configurations have changed, which means that even the 3.2.18 starting point of your current PCLOS kernel is not exactly a perfect starting place.

Hello and thanks for the replys .     i used to compile my own kernels way back when linux was first introduced , on my intel 486 sx @25 Mhz (with no math coprocessor)  took like 3 days  to compile . but havent done much in the last decade or so,  so im not totally unfamiliar with the procedures.

Things may have changed ill need to  research it and see if this is something i want too tackle on my modern systems with the latest OS's.

thanks again    ill let you know if i do attempt it and post my outcome.
 

[Yankee]

I'm not a packager by any means but the 3.7 kernel
looks good on paper.

Full Intel HD 4000 support as well as NVidia improvements
(they all have)

Last kernel with i386 support

Could be a good kernel to have in the repo for new
and old hardware.

Have a good one.

Y

[gseaman]

Building a kernel is not that difficult. Building it for distribution with the operating system is hard.
First, extract the source: tar -xf linux-*.tar.xz
Change directories: cd linux-*
Copy the current kernel config: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /path-to-kernel-source/.config
make oldconfig (you will be prompted with all of the new options for that kernel, just hit the enter key repeatedly to accept all of the defaults)
make && su -c "make modules_install install"
grub will be automatically updated and you are ready to go!

Galen

[Yankee]

Hi Galen,

I'm glad you answered.

Hope someone with alot of energy can do a 3.7 kernel then.

thanks for the response.

Patrick

[gseaman]

Hi Galen,

I'm glad you answered.

Hope someone with alot of energy can do a 3.7 kernel then.

thanks for the response.

Patrick

It's done. I'm using 3.7.6. The problem for distribution is that all proprietary drivers have to work (done - except fglrx-legacy needs tweaked), a unionfs type filesystem needs to work for mylivecd (almost done, there is an outside the kernel part that I haven't successfully built), and it needs to have minimal regressions in hardware compatibility (some users are having problems that I haven't been able to solve). I've got a couple more weeks of personal work that comes first, then I'll tackle these head-on.

Galen

[Yankee]

It's done. I'm using 3.7.6

It looks, and reads like it is going to be a grand kernel.

All we can say is thanks in advance.

regards,

Y

[GOTHBITES]

Hi Galen,

I'm glad you answered.

Hope someone with alot of energy can do a 3.7 kernel then.

thanks for the response.

Patrick

It's done. I'm using 3.7.6. The problem for distribution is that all proprietary drivers have to work (done - except fglrx-legacy needs tweaked), a unionfs type filesystem needs to work for mylivecd (almost done, there is an outside the kernel part that I haven't successfully built), and it needs to have minimal regressions in hardware compatibility (some users are having problems that I haven't been able to solve). I've got a couple more weeks of personal work that comes first, then I'll tackle these head-on.

Galen

Maybe I am showing my ignorance but are we talking about 3.5 now upgraded to 3.7 and if thats true (I so love the kde 3.5)

but didn't this distro switch from 3.5 to 4.5 awhile ago? I forget for what reasons.

[gseaman]

We are talking about the linux kernel version, not the kde version. And, yes, I also loved kde 3.5 the best. I am currently running the lxde desktop on top of the most recent kde iso, so that I have konqueror, kwrite, kmix, k3b, etc. It is very similar to the old kde 3.5.

Galen