Running game files

[Blackadam1518]

So this week i decided that i miss some games i downloaded a few some are iso form and others with the .exe file. i was told get wine yadda yadda it will hep run most games i said okay sure. so i did and tried to run some of them.  on some of the games it will open up and start  running the installation and then just crash or shut itself down.  After several more failed attempts it was recommended that i use Play On linux so i did and downloaded steam and a few free games on there. and similar situation the games would shut down s i'm opening them.

when i do get an error message it would be Fatal Error Wine must shut down and give a dll. file name which at the moment i dont remember.

i was also recommended to follow these steps
http://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/201107/page11.html


which i did and the problem reminds

not sure what i can try and do now to be able to run and install the game files

[horusfalcon]

I've used Play On Linux with mixed results, myself.  What kind of hardware we talkin' about here?  Particularly, how much RAM?  (Despite what WINE stands for, emulation always incurs a performance hit - you should probably have at least 2 gigs of RAM and a decent video card that can support OpenGL 2.0 for the stuff you're trying to do.)

Later On,
D

[menotu]

Additionally, if you have Windows OS you could install it in Virtualbox and run your Windows games in there

[horusfalcon]

Additionally, if you have Windows OS you could install it in Virtualbox and run your Windows games in there

Aw... where's the fun in that?  I mean... that'd just work.

Later On,
D

[Blackadam1518]

lol  okay hardware wise i have

6 gigs ddr2

1gig video card

main hd 750gigs

2nd hd 1tb

AND
single core pent 4 3.02 ^_^

i do not have a win OS i did borrow a cd from a friend and tried to run it on VB which i did
and fro some reason when i was trying to run DC universe and Dungeons and Dragons Online (well really it was the same message off of all the Sony titles i was trying to play) online it would give me an error message  saying that my video card  could not support it and show funny symbols in the video card section when it was doing like a hardware scan
any hoot i tried contacting their tech support and they all said o wait virtual box you run linux sorry cant help you good luck with forums i was like >.<

after i got their GREAT help i was like meh i dont need vb anymore........ and now i've been bitten by the gamer bug again

i have steam able to kinda work on here it loads everquest and when i chose a server it just goes black on me ad freezes and i'd like to install bliz titles and play them

[horusfalcon]

lol  okay hardware wise i have

6 gigs ddr2

Are you running a PAE enabled kernel for Linux and were you trying to run XP-x64?  If not, you were not fully utilizing your RAM.  (Non-PAE or Win32 stop about 3.5 GB or so...)

1gig video card

Sure... PCI, AGP, PCIe, vendor, make and model would help here. Support in Linx (and in WINE) varies widely for different manufacturers, even when the same underlying hardware is used for comparison (e.g., a board from MSI with Nvidia hardware will run differently than a board from, say, EVGA/Gigabyte/you name it with the same Nvidia hardware... go figure.  A lot depends on the vendor's implementation and the video chipset.) 

main hd 750gigs

2nd hd 1tb

Nice storage.  Hopefully some of this is at least 7,200 RPM SATA III?

AND
single core pent 4 3.02 ^_^

Hmm... This could be a Northwood, Prescott, Gallatin, or even a Cedar Mill based CPU.  Does you machine do Hyperthreading?  If so, and it's not enabled, you are hobbling your horses here.  Be aware, though, that changes to Hyperthreading may require a kernel upgrade or reinstall.

Do you know if this is a Pentium IV Extreme Edition?  These were actually built with gaming in mind, but proved to be rather expensive and didn't really deliver all that much performance boost.

The CPU (unless it's being tremendously over-clocked) really shouldn't present issues other than whether or not Hyperthreading is enabled.

i do not have a win OS i did borrow a cd from a friend and tried to run it on VB which i did
and fro some reason when i was trying to run DC universe and Dungeons and Dragons Online (well really it was the same message off of all the Sony titles i was trying to play) online it would give me an error message  saying that my video card  could not support it and show funny symbols in the video card section when it was doing like a hardware scan
any hoot i tried contacting their tech support and they all said o wait virtual box you run linux sorry cant help you good luck with forums i was like >.<

after i got their GREAT help i was like meh i dont need vb anymore........ and now i've been bitten by the gamer bug again

i have steam able to kinda work on here it loads everquest and when i chose a server it just goes black on me ad freezes and i'd like to install bliz titles and play them

I'll commiserate for just a moment about lack of support for Linux in the gaming industry.  I have some of the old Loki releases for Linux that won't run properly for me on anything past a 2.6 kernel.  Alpha Centauri, Railroad Tycoon II, Neverwinter Nights, and Quake III: Arena were at one time available for Linux commercially, and I did my bit to support a nascent gaming industry for Linux, even enjoyed playing them for a while, dag-nab-it!  (Well, Neverwinter Nights was kinda odd... you bought the WIndows version for the registration and downloaded the Linux client - Linux support was there, but limited.)

Funny symbols?  Yeah... look seriously at whatever video drivers you are using, whether in Linux or from Windows in your VirtualBox environment.  If the hardware reacts the same way in both places, either consider another video card (not cheap, I know) or futzing with the drivers until you find something that works.

What kind of games do you enjoy playing?  MMORPG?  FPS? Turn-based Strategy? what?  There are some games out there for Linux, but most don't compare with today's bleeding edge console and WinPC games.  Slowly, as Linux gains greater acceptance, that will change, but for now them's the breaks.

Hope you get it figured out.  Have you looked at something called Cedega?  It's not in the PCLinuxOS repositories, but, if you're willing to go out on that limb and experiment, it might be part of what you're looking for.  (Although, looking in on it just now I see that some changes have taken place... the gift and the curse of Open Source Development...)

Later On,
D

 

[µT6]

play windows games on linux depends on your video card and if the game can work on wine, not every game will work

for example, all half life 2 games in steam will work on a video card with basic support, like a geforce 6200 but won't work if the video card is unsupported or has those weird old video drivers that doesn't have 3d hardware acceleration

some games asking for directx10 or x11 will not work as expected or won't work at all, you can visit winehq website and search on the list for the supported games

wine emulates lots of stuff from windows but not everything, you can expect to see slowness in the games that work or force them to work in opengl mode, each games if supports opengl will offer it in a different way

usually if you want to play many games, a dual boot with windows xp or 7 is the best way to do that

[horusfalcon]

some games asking for directx10 or x11 will not work as expected or won't work at all, you can visit winehq website and search on the list for the supported games

Yeah, that's why I mentioned Cedega (aka WINE-X) which did some things to support DirectX.  Regrettably, it looks like that project has sort of taken a wrong turn?

I'm with ya on the dual-boot, especially given the hardware under discussion.  Windows needs all the horsepower it can get, and any emulation is gonna take away from that to some degree or other.

Later On,
D 

[Myakka1]

Another possible strategy for playing games online with a Linux OS is to choose ones that are browser based.

This is one I play.  It works without a hitch in the PCLinux version of Firefox.  It is free to play forever (umm err -- they try and trick you into giving them money).  It is a MMORPG with lots of PVP and GVG and guilds and more.  The link below is my recruiting link.

http://www.fallensword.com/?ref=1592837

There are probably others out there like it.  Does anybody know of them?

[agmg]

Wine does not play all games well. Some play perfectly, some have minor or major issues and some of them don't play at all.
There is an application database in the official website that you can use to get more information about the game you are interested in:

http://appdb.winehq.org/

VirtualBox on the other side, is not built for gaming.
3D support is poor, resulting in bad performance when playing games that require 3D acceleration.

If you like playing Windows games, the best solution would be to install Windows 7 alongside PCLinuxOS in a dual-boot scenario.

[horusfalcon]

Wine does not play all games well. Some play perfectly, some have minor or major issues and some of them don't play at all.
There is an application database in the official website that you can use to get more information about the game you are interested in:

http://appdb.winehq.org/

VirtualBox on the other side, is not built for gaming.
3D support is poor, resulting in bad performance when playing games that require 3D acceleration.

If you like playing Windows games, the best solution would be to install Windows 7 alongside PCLinuxOS in a dual-boot scenario.

Like I said before - where's the fun in that?  It'd just work...

Seriously, you're quite right.  Playing Windows games is best done in a Windows environment.  I confine most of my gaming nowadays to my Nexus 7.   (Just completed a perfect score on Fantasy Defense!)

Later On,
D

[Crow]

I dual boot just for gaming but if you want an online game  Savage 2 is very good  Fiesta is another one useful to kill some time.

The main question is: what kind of games do you play?

[Blackadam1518]

I dual boot just for gaming but if you want an online game  Savage 2 is very good  Fiesta is another one useful to kill some time.

The main question is: what kind of games do you play?

I mainly have attempted to play DDO, everquest 2, perfect world international, dc universe (really most of sonys free games) and trying to run steam. 

I was advised against dual booting because windows hates sharing your pc unless you would run something like win xp and earlier versions. to try Virtual boxes and thats when i ran into the problem where the games would give errors when it came to the video card

[agmg]

I dual boot just for gaming but if you want an online game  Savage 2 is very good  Fiesta is another one useful to kill some time.

The main question is: what kind of games do you play?

I mainly have attempted to play DDO, everquest 2, perfect world international, dc universe (really most of sonys free games) and trying to run steam. 

I was advised against dual booting because windows hates sharing your pc unless you would run something like win xp and earlier versions. to try Virtual boxes and thats when i ran into the problem where the games would give errors when it came to the video card

Whoever gave you that advice? I have two hard disks in my laptop with 3 PCLinuxOS installations and one with Windows 7. They all co-exist without a single problem. I don't keep Windows around for gaming but for 2 programs that I use for my work and can't be replaced with Linux ones.

Dual-booting is the best solution if you need to play games. Like I wrote in my previous post, VirtualBox is not built for gaming.

[Crow]

1. Forget about running Windows games in Virtual Box.

2. Use Wine as a first option, look for the game in WinHQ]http://appdb.winehq.org/]WinHQ to see if it is supported.

3. Double boot with Windows. XP is a good option but Win 7 works fine and has better support in newer machines.

You can be a Linux user but you don't have to leave your gaming, remember: Windows is a toy OS, use it for playing.