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Offline saltcedar

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I didn't get the memo!
« on: January 05, 2013, 05:00:28 PM »
In short, in the transition phase:  do not update      or       update using the ibiblio server only.


I updated before seeing the above warning. Now she's doa.
Won't do anything at the root or user prompt. Just hangs with watch icon.

Is there a graceful recovery or is it re-install time.


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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2013, 05:08:56 PM »
I ain't got the answer... but someone will come along, and will have it..........

But thanks for trying PCLOS.........
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2013, 05:40:59 PM »
Try rebooting again and this time when booting press the "Esc" to get to verbose mode. Watch and see if it hangs and post that information.


NOTE: if you must update for the time being ONLY use the ibiblio server.  Better yet don't update for the next few days. There will be a post made about when it should be ok to update from the repos.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2013, 05:43:01 PM by YouCanToo »




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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2013, 06:01:06 PM »
It hangs at Display Manager.

Only gives a local host localdomain login screen.

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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2013, 08:20:14 PM »
It hangs at Display Manager.

Only gives a local host localdomain login screen.

OK, at the prompt login using your username and password, When you get the prompt again type in the command startx and press enter. This should start the X system and you should wind up at the desktop.  If you get a screen of errors only post what they say.





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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2013, 09:11:49 PM »
# I'm only able to login, in safe mode.

Xauth: file/home/xxxxxxxx/.serverauth.2148 does not exist
Authentication failed. cannot startx server.
perhaps you don't have ownership?
xitint: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to xserver.Network unreachable
xinit: server error

« Last Edit: January 06, 2013, 06:16:55 PM by saltcedar »

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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2013, 11:21:47 PM »
I just did new install and updated using PASS with no problems.  Also updated my notebook.
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2013, 06:47:56 AM »
PASS isn't a public mirror so won't be affected, as I understand it.

Returning to the original problem, it sounds as if you've managed to do some damage but how severe I don't know. The error message suggests a permissions problem, but that might be the product of a malfunction caused by a missing package. I doubt upgrading would change permissions in your home directory.

If you have a recent remaster it might be a good idea to re-install, but whatever you do you should try to back up home first. If you can't get to a GUI you will have to work from the command line cp -a is a good way to copy if you have room as it preserves ownership and permissions and copies the whole tree below the named directory. Make sure you get source and destination the right way round though!

If you have a remaster and a separate /home partition you can keep the old /home intact. If not you will have to use the backup to restore home. Similarly if you re-install the desktop below. This experience is the best thing to teach the need for remasters and backups.

If you haven't your chances of repair depend on whether you can get online (ifconfig should tell you that). Then you need to see whether apt-get and rpm are still installed, and move the comment (# character) in /etc/apt/sources.lst to your current repo line and uncomment ibiblio. The magic command most likely to restore a desktop if all above is well is the following as root:
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apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get task-kde4-minimal (or task-lxde for an LXDE desktop)

However, that doesn't mean you won't have lost other things. The only sure way back to the way things were before is an install from a remaster or a livecd install followed by replacing and recustomising as needed.
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2013, 07:04:18 AM »
I had complaints from some users with long forgotten updates who ended up with the same symptoms.
The easy way, rename your home/user folder (LiveCD) and install the latest and greatest.
After reboot copy the important parts from your renamed folder back to the new home/user
These are the folders like Documents, Videos, Musik, Pictures, .thunderbird, .mozilla and whatever in de . settings folders is important for you. To view the folders with . , they are hidden, use Alt-. (KDE) or Alt-h (Gnome)
Repaired/installed those garbled machines in about 20 minutes without searching for the why and how ;)
Updating, Localization, LibreOffice and more fine tuning all within the hour. (Try this M$)

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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2013, 07:44:09 AM »
I had complaints from some users with long forgotten updates who ended up with the same symptoms.
The easy way, rename your home/user folder (LiveCD) and install the latest and greatest.
After reboot copy the important parts from your renamed folder back to the new home/user
These are the folders like Documents, Videos, Musik, Pictures, .thunderbird, .mozilla and whatever in de . settings folders is important for you. To view the folders with . , they are hidden, use Alt-. (KDE) or Alt-h (Gnome)
Repaired/installed those garbled machines in about 20 minutes without searching for the why and how ;)
Updating, Localization, LibreOffice and more fine tuning all within the hour. (Try this M$)

Easier yet, don't rename the /home/<user> directory, and when creating the normal user in the new installation, use the same name. At the first login screen, log in as root, open a terminal, and enter the command;

[root@localhost ~]# ls -l /home                     <Enter>

If the <user> directory shows the ownership like this;

drwxr-xr-x 73 <user> <user>  4096 Jan  6 00:32 <user>/

...you can log out of root and in as the normal user, with everything as it always was in the old installation.

If the results of the above command get results like this;

drwxr-xr-x 73 <number> <number>  4096 Jan  6 00:32 <user>/

...enter the command;

[root@localhost ~]# chown -R <user>:<user> /home/<user>                  <Enter>

... then enter the first command again. If the form of the results is now as the first example shown, which it should be, you are ready to log out of root and in as the normal user.

Reolace <user> in the above with the actual user name you normally use.

This is a lot quicker than moving a lot of files from the old, renamed user home, to a newly created one. ;)
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2013, 09:43:11 AM »
Thanks O-P

Best I can tell it reformatted sda5 which wiped everything?
I told it to use existing partition at install. I did get the user
in the first example but it may have been from the new install?

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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2013, 10:00:52 AM »
Thanks O-P

Best I can tell it reformatted sda5 which wiped everything?
I told it to use existing partition at install. I did get the user
in the first example but it may have been from the new install?

Did you not have a separate /home partition, or, at least, a backup of your users directory?
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2013, 10:22:46 AM »
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Did you not have a separate /home partition?

thought I did as it's standard for new installs isn't it?


Looking into it further I don't see a separate home
partition. I could swear it was the default at some
point in the past. How do I change it now?
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2013, 11:58:58 AM »
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Did you not have a separate /home partition?

thought I did as it's standard for new installs isn't it?


Looking into it further I don't see a separate home
partition. I could swear it was the default at some
point in the past. How do I change it now?

Do you have a free partition, or space to create one?
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Re: I didn't get the memo!
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2013, 12:39:23 PM »
interesting info, but, what memo?

i updated two days ago and nothing weird happened ???
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