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EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« on: January 03, 2013, 11:01:13 AM »
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 02:09:47 PM »
Louis:     "I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, to discover that gambling is going on in this establishment!"

Antoine:  "Your winnings, sir!"  (presses several thousand Francs into Louis' hand)

Louis:     "Oh! Thank You!"  (hurriedly conceals money inside his coat)

This little snippet from Casablanca reveals much about the mindset of the entertainment industry lately.  They, like the character Louis portrayed by Claude Rains in the movie, are not acting from pure motives on their own, but out of a sense of fear and intimidation while trying to appear to be 'masters of their own fate' to paraphrase.  They push an agenda that seeks to limit the growth of an influence they see as disruptive to their industry, and damn the consequences to free speech, or anybody else's legal rights in the matter.

EMI needs to be slapped and slapped hard for this sort of behavior.

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 08:01:32 PM »
I got a 404 page not found.
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 06:36:34 PM »
I got a 404 page not found.


Huh... works for me.  Link below copied from the page's URL in my browser:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20121221/02122421460/emi-was-actively-giving-away-mp3s-it-accused-michael-roberston-downloading-illegally.shtml

Looks the same as Just17's original post... you okay browsing elsewhere (that's not in your cache already)?

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 10:08:42 PM »
Somehow I just can't shake the feeling that this is "Karma" biting him (Robertson) in the ass.
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 02:03:21 AM »
Somehow I just can't shake the feeling that this is "Karma" biting him (Robertson) in the ass.


So when does Instant Karma bite EMI?  They are the ones being deceptive here, concealing evidence during discovery in hopes of strengthening a flimsy to the point of non-existent case, and using the legal system to clobber someone who, when all is said and done, did little if anything wrong in this matter.  (And that's what is important to note here:  Mr. Robertson may not be entirely blameless with regard to others, but it appears based on what I've seen so far that he is neither culpable nor liable regarding EMI in this matter.  The presiding judge(s) in this case most likely will see it that way, too.  When that happens, look for a countersuit - that's the way the law works, unfortunately.)

So many times we read of big media companies who want to have their cake and eat it too.  This one needs their ass handed to them, and their counsel needs to answer ethical charges for misconduct.  At the very least there should be punitive damages for the stress and disruption they have caused to Mr. Robertson's life by their evident abuse of the legal system in prosecuting him.

The only way to mitigate this would be if EMI could prove beyond reasonable doubt that their legal team was not fully aware of the facts during discovery because of the negligence or incompetence of employees responsible for providing the team with discovery related information.  It seems, based on what is out there, this would be a difficult argument to make convincingly.

Don't mean to rant, but this seems such a good example of everything that's wrong with our legal system.  He or she who has the deepest pockets wins, and the little guy gets shafted regardless or right, wrong, just or unjust.  It just happens that way far too often.

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 09:38:10 PM »
Somehow I just can't shake the feeling that this is "Karma" biting him (Robertson) in the ass.


So when does Instant Karma bite EMI? 
The sooner the better hopefully. ;)
My feelings towards Robertson have nothing really to do with him vs EMI
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2013, 02:38:26 AM »
Somehow I just can't shake the feeling that this is "Karma" biting him (Robertson) in the ass.


So when does Instant Karma bite EMI? 
The sooner the better hopefully. ;)
My feelings towards Robertson have nothing really to do with him vs EMI

Huh...  perhaps I'd feel differently if I were more familiar with the gentleman?

In this current matter, though, yeah... it looks like EMI needs to be brought to heel.

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 08:28:07 PM »
Somehow I just can't shake the feeling that this is "Karma" biting him (Robertson) in the ass.


So when does Instant Karma bite EMI?  
The sooner the better hopefully. ;)
My feelings towards Robertson have nothing really to do with him vs EMI

Huh...  perhaps I'd feel differently if I were more familiar with the gentleman?

In this current matter, though, yeah... it looks like EMI needs to be brought to heel.

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 05:31:24 AM »
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 08:07:11 AM »
He has quite a history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Robertson_(businessman)

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Indeed he does. Let's go back almost 13 years.  ;D

http://www.stereophile.com/news/10708/ 

And remember Napster?  I have no real opinion about all this, but I suspect that the lawyers are happy to participate.

BTW, I really enjoyed the reference to Casablanca; it's one of my favorite films.  8)
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2013, 02:09:08 PM »
He has quite a history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Robertson_(businessman)

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Ya, put up "Lindows", a Debian based kind of Distro that in its time really worked easy. He gave up the idea that he could run Windows apps on it and went "pure Linux". It was very easy to run, no permission problems etc. as it ran as root out of the box. (Experienced users could of course create user accounts.). It became later "Linspire" while the name Lindows was good for 20 million US from Microsoft..... (Long story but true).
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2013, 10:28:53 PM »
Oh... he's THAT guy! ::)

[facepalm]

I had tried my best to forget about him... This is another fine mess you've got me into!

Casablanca is one of my all-time faves, too... right up there with The Maltese Falcon, and all the Mr. Moto movies.  (I'm a serious fan of Lotus Long - aka Karen Sorrell.)

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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2013, 10:35:24 PM »
This will help explain my feelings if you Google "freespire.com" and Carmony's blog (not a fan of him either)
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Re: EMI/Capitol Vs Robertson
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 12:50:32 PM »
This will help explain my feelings if you Google "freespire.com" and Carmony's blog (not a fan of him either)
Used Linspire briefly (got rid of it mostly because of CNR) before PCLinuxOS, only because it was pre-installed.

Egads, Brain!  Does anybody have any respect or liking for this guy (aside from his "special friends")?  The only thing that could possibly make him worse is if he were involved in politics!  Reading freespire.com made my hair curl.

I hope the judgment made in the EMI vs. Robertson matter is made with a view to the facts of the case and the evidence, otherwise it will be hard for either party to get a fair trial.  I don't know if I could in good conscience argue to further enrich either of these cancers on the body politic.  (Just one of many reasons I decided not to enter the legal profession.)

Cases such as this one point up a crying need to address deficiencies in our legal system with respect to copyright, patent, and intellectual property laws in general.

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