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Offline ThirdOfSix

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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2012, 08:32:45 PM »
If your laptop is old enough to have an IDE hard drive, it could be rather expensive to get a new one.

But if it is IDE and also has a battery with less than half of its capacity left, you might want to try one of the new SSDs. Some of them are now cheaper than a laptop IDE hard drive and can make a laptop with a failing battery still usable since you can turn them on and accomplish your task and shut them down in less time than it takes the HDD version to boot thus using a lot less power from an old battery.

There are few things more frustrating than watching a laptop s l o w l y  booting windows and then  s l o w l y  shutting down when you know the battery is probably going to quit while it has the hard drive writing.

An SSD and an install of lxde could make a lot of these old laptops usable again at a time when you can not justify spending much money on them.

And what is more, they are likely to run twice as fast as they did when new.

Another thing you might want to consider is that some of the video cards on older machines do not have drivers that can output to the aspect ratio of the new wide 22" monitors.

Some of them will output the right aspect ratio at the native resolution of the monitor but will not work if you try to set it at a lower resolution so that old eyes can read it.

Many people don't mind having circles show as ovals so they get along just using a 3 to 4 apect ration which the card and the monitor will do.

I can not imagine an artist putting up with that though.

So you might want to look and what resolution your old computer can do before buying a 22" monitor.

My 22" monitor has a native resolution of 1680 x 1050.

I have to run it at 1440 x 900 in order for me to see it where it is sitting across the room.

This works in linux but the drivers for that chip set for windows will not allow anything but 1680 x 1050.

This makes that Lenovo machine which dual boots with XP very annoying when booted in windows.
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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2012, 10:16:35 PM »
If your laptop is old enough to have an IDE hard drive, it could be rather expensive to get a new one.

But if it is IDE and also has a battery with less than half of its capacity left, you might want to try one of the new SSDs. Some of them are now cheaper than a laptop IDE hard drive and can make a laptop with a failing battery still usable since you can turn them on and accomplish your task and shut them down in less time than it takes the HDD version to boot thus using a lot less power from an old battery.

There are few things more frustrating than watching a laptop s l o w l y  booting windows and then  s l o w l y  shutting down when you know the battery is probably going to quit while it has the hard drive writing.

An SSD and an install of lxde could make a lot of these old laptops usable again at a time when you can not justify spending much money on them.

And what is more, they are likely to run twice as fast as they did when new.

Another thing you might want to consider is that some of the video cards on older machines do not have drivers that can output to the aspect ratio of the new wide 22" monitors.

Some of them will output the right aspect ratio at the native resolution of the monitor but will not work if you try to set it at a lower resolution so that old eyes can read it.

Many people don't mind having circles show as ovals so they get along just using a 3 to 4 apect ration which the card and the monitor will do.

I can not imagine an artist putting up with that though.

So you might want to look and what resolution your old computer can do before buying a 22" monitor.

My 22" monitor has a native resolution of 1680 x 1050.

I have to run it at 1440 x 900 in order for me to see it where it is sitting across the room.

This works in linux but the drivers for that chip set for windows will not allow anything but 1680 x 1050.

This makes that Lenovo machine which dual boots with XP very annoying when booted in windows.


Well, first step is to ge the wiring inthe baseent done.  then, a new 22" monitor.  After that, I'll instsll PCLinuxOS to the spare computer box and see wht happens.:) 

The info is VERY helpful.  Maybe all I need then is a battery for the HD????
Toonfully,

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Acer Aspire 9300 Laptop
Desktop Icy Dock system with AMD PHENOM X4 QUADCORE 9650 2.3GHZ 4MB L1 , ‎NVidia GEFORCE 9400GT 1GB 2X DVI PCIE graphics card, 22" Chimei monitor.

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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2012, 10:39:33 PM »
It seems that I have left you with the impression that I was talking about a battery in the hard drive.

There is no battery in the drive. I was talking about the main battery that powers the computer when it is not plugged into the mains.

The point being that hard drives are power hogs and they draw that power for all the unused by you time that the computer is booting and shutting down.

Unless I misunderstand the whole point of SSDs, they can pretty much just continue running whatever was running when the machine shut down from the point that it was at when it shut down.

Therefore they do not waste all that battery power used to boot and shut down the system when running a hard drive.

That means that an old machine with a weak main battery can do useful work with a battery that would be useless on a machine with a normal hard drive.

One of my machines running XP used to take 5 minutes to boot up and 5 minutes or more to shut down because Microsoft sneaks in automatic updates on shut down whether you like it or not. I would imagine that a lot of laptop hard drives have been scrambled due to power failure of the battery during these big brother updates.





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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2013, 05:43:44 AM »
It seems that I have left you with the impression that I was talking about a battery in the hard drive.

There is no battery in the drive. I was talking about the main battery that powers the computer when it is not plugged into the mains.

The point being that hard drives are power hogs and they draw that power for all the unused by you time that the computer is booting and shutting down.

Unless I misunderstand the whole point of SSDs, they can pretty much just continue running whatever was running when the machine shut down from the point that it was at when it shut down.

Therefore they do not waste all that battery power used to boot and shut down the system when running a hard drive.

That means that an old machine with a weak main battery can do useful work with a battery that would be useless on a machine with a normal hard drive.

One of my machines running XP used to take 5 minutes to boot up and 5 minutes or more to shut down because Microsoft sneaks in automatic updates on shut down whether you like it or not. I would imagine that a lot of laptop hard drives have been scrambled due to power failure of the battery during these big brother updates.



I understand.

I do have WinXP on this large laptop but rarely booted it.  I ran WinXP in VirtualBox and rejected all updates as I never used Windows online, only for Quickbooks.
Toonfully,

Mark
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Acer Aspire 9300 Laptop
Desktop Icy Dock system with AMD PHENOM X4 QUADCORE 9650 2.3GHZ 4MB L1 , ‎NVidia GEFORCE 9400GT 1GB 2X DVI PCIE graphics card, 22" Chimei monitor.

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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2013, 07:12:43 AM »
I just 3 weeks ago picked up this monitor ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236043 )
for my wife's new computer at a local Pawn Shop
for a whopping $ 45.00 - it's used but looks like new.

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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2013, 08:25:19 AM »
I just 3 weeks ago picked up this monitor ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236043 )
for my wife's new computer at a local Pawn Shop
for a whopping $ 45.00 - it's used but looks like new.



Excellent!  A deal I'd like to come across.:)
Toonfully,

Mark
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Lenovo 14" ThinkPad Edge (0578F5U) with Core i3 Processor(i3-370M) 2.40 GHz 4GB RAM
Acer Aspire 9300 Laptop
Desktop Icy Dock system with AMD PHENOM X4 QUADCORE 9650 2.3GHZ 4MB L1 , ‎NVidia GEFORCE 9400GT 1GB 2X DVI PCIE graphics card, 22" Chimei monitor.

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Re: How big a laptop?
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2013, 08:30:40 AM »
that is what is great about lcd monitors, if no one cleaned them with paper or put them near to a window, the image quality remains really good for many years, nothing bad on have one used

not the same with a old crt  :-\
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