Synaptic Behaviour Question

[Just17]

Probably I never noticed before ....  but this is what I experience ....

Under 'Status' in Synaptic today I had two packages to be upgraded - gimpsplashloader & ekiga

No problems.

The upgradable list then disappears as there is no more packages to be upgraded.

YET ....  if I select "Mark all upgrades" I get the following

To be removed:   jadetex & xmltex

To be upgraded:  texlive & texlive-texmf


Could someone explain how the two different results are 'calculated'?

What does one method do that the other doesn't?

Thanks.

[Just17]

No guesses even?

[JohnW_57]

Probably I never noticed before ....  but this is what I experience ....

Under 'Status' in Synaptic today I had two packages to be upgraded - gimpsplashloader & ekiga

No problems.

The upgradable list then disappears as there is no more packages to be upgraded.

YET ....  if I select "Mark all upgrades" I get the following

To be removed:   jadetex & xmltex

To be upgraded:  texlive & texlive-texmf


Could someone explain how the two different results are 'calculated'?

What does one method do that the other doesn't?

Thanks.

A known issue when tetex or tetex deps are installed:

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,109357.msg935605.html#msg935605
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,106253.0.html

JohnW

[Just17]

I did not see the issue raised in any posts of either link you posted 

The links appeared to be concentrating on the size of the package/s as well as questioning the necessity for the package/s in Xfce.

Maybe I missed something obvious ......   

So the original question remains .......  why were those packages not showing under the upgradable status, but did get marked for upgrade if I Marked All Upgrades?

What is the difference between the two schemes/methods?

[JohnW_57]

Guess TerryN  can give a better answer but seems it's a packaging issue (not sure).

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101266.msg905539.html#msg905539

JohnW

[Just17]

Guess TerryN  can give a better answer but seems it's a packaging issue (not sure).

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,101266.msg905539.html#msg905539

JohnW

If so then I guess it should be corrected.

Glad to note it is not related to my install.

[JohnW_57]

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,109808.0.html

Had the same issue when testing the Xfce 4.10 packages (on 64 bit)
The xfce4-power-manager package was the trigger for removing all xfce packages.
To solve was to remove the old xfce 4.8 packages needed.

JohnW

[gseaman]

I believe the issue with tetex and all related packages is that they should be removed from the repos. texlive is the complete replacement, but someone has to go through every dependency and point it to texlive. (Or maybe mark it as Provides: tetex?)

Galen

[JohnW_57]

Tetex plus the deps = 100MB if it's installed
TexLive plus deps = 650MB when updated from tetex.

Gonna be fun!

JohnW

[gseaman]

Tetex plus the deps = 100MB if it's installed
TexLive plus deps = 650MB when updated from textex.

Gonna be fun!

JohnW

Yes, texlive also needs to be broken out into parts, like tetex was. It's not really bigger, there are just more parts built into one package, like latex, for example. If we used Mandriva as an example, texlive would have to be broken into a thousand pieces.

Galen