Secure Boot available soon for PCLinuxOS?

[Crow]

Look at this  

I'm pleased to say that a usable version of shim is now available for download. As I discussed here, this is intended for distributions that want to support secure boot but don't want to deal with Microsoft.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIzOTk

[joechimp]

That does deserve a 

[ZX80Man]

This is a scary subject, to me.  If I understand it correctly, it applies the the newest wave of computers being sold now.  If say I was to buy a new windoze 8 pc,(NOT) it would be more of a challenge to change or add another os.  That makes me think that ms has convinced some hardware manufactures to change the bios in those computers.  It scars me because that could discourage some would be developers from doing their thing.  I read about it a while back and kept on hoping I misunderstood it?
It may be a while before I buy or build another pc, but will this concept be all across the board or will we always be able to buy a unlocked pc/motherboard?  How will PCLOS deal with this concept?  The shim thing, sounds like it has promise.
I read that a few of the well funded Linux distros have struck up some kind of deals with ms.  I can't help but wonder, if ms fails in making operating systems, they might feel they can survive making money in court. lol
Just my 2 cents worth, sorry for the long yarn.   

[Just17]

If secure boot is disabled, then any Linux or other OS can boot the PC.

Can Win 8 be booted in this mode?  Probably not, but that won't affect me in any case, so I don't worry about it.

All I really care about is that when those Win 8 users discard their machines I can use them with PCLOS .....  and disabling secure boot will allow that.

The shim is for those who must keep Win 8 on their machines and want to boot Linux.

It appears to be the answer.

Good luck to them.

[Crow]

It seems to me that at the end of the day if you want to dual boot Windows and Linux you will have to swap disks

ZX80Man forget the DIY hardware upgrades, Intel will put an end to that, it will began by soldering the processor to MoBo, Apple is currently soldering the memory in their machines so I guess that will be next,

[The Chief]

It seems to me that at the end of the day if you want to dual boot Windows and Linux you will have to swap disks

Since the problem is in the BIOS, I don't see how that would help.

[joechimp]

I am confused as well. Isn't this a built in motherboard issue? Or am I mistaken?

[Just17]

It seems to me that at the end of the day if you want to dual boot Windows and Linux you will have to swap disks

Since the problem is in the BIOS, I don't see how that would help.

+1

I don't really see a problem that has not been overcome.

UEFI without secure boot does not pose any problem.

UEFI with secure boot (because of the requirement to run Win in secure mode) poses a problem which has been overcome.

What is left?

[ZX80Man]

Thanks for the info.  I, myself, can not think of any good reason to run windoze 8 or newer.  I will admit that I dual boot, using 7 for a few apps that I can not run in PCLOS, but I do use PCLOS 99% of the time or when ever I am not forced to use 7.
Crow, yes Intel has been getting alot more sticky over time and I had always preferred Intel, but my last build, I used an AMD and feel they are gaining customers by giving them what they want.  I feel that the DIY industry stands too much to loose by shutting us out.
Just17, Your words are music to my ears/eyes.
I had started out in computers, with the primary interest in hardware.  Now, I spend way more time at the keyboards.

[kjpetrie]

There might be more alterations to UEFI in a machine designed only to boot Windows that prevent other OSs booting. If they're only designed to boot one OS they don't have to be standard - just designed to be understood by that one OS.

In future, always ask whether a machine will boot Linux and refuse to buy it if it won't. That achieves two things - it gives you an argument if it doesn't work, and it makes the sellers aware of the demand, which puts pressure on them to meet it.

[Crow]

There might be more alterations to UEFI in a machine designed only to boot Windows that prevent other OSs booting. If they're only designed to boot one OS they don't have to be standard - just designed to be understood by that one OS.

In future, always ask whether a machine will boot Linux and refuse to buy it if it won't. That achieves two things - it gives you an argument if it doesn't work, and it makes the sellers aware of the demand, which puts pressure on them to meet it.

I've been doing that for years, either doesn't known about what are you talking about or they may say that it doesn't support it (even if it does).

That's one of the reasons I built my machines.