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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2012, 06:29:57 PM »

@Just17,
I said "request",not "require".

Here in upstate new york atleast,when you submit something to be posted,the first thing they do is look at the address to see if anything wrong stick out,like if you have a wrong stamp for example,and then they will turn it around to see if a return address is present and will ask for it to be added it if it is not there.

I do not know if they will refuse the package if a poster decline to add a return address,but i do know they always ask,or atleast, they always asked me when i did not.

It makes sense though,what happen if a package can not be delivered,if there is no return address,then the only thing they can do is either keep it for themselves or through it away or sell it.

a quick google check on the matter came up with this: http://askville.amazon.com/send-packages-people-return-address/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=30204337



Having read from that link it appears there is a 'rule' that enforces a requirement for a return address on packages.

Does the same apply to letters?

I was asked to add a return address when i wanted to send a letter too.
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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2012, 03:00:13 AM »

@Just17,
I said "request",not "require".

Here in upstate new york atleast,when you submit something to be posted,the first thing they do is look at the address to see if anything wrong stick out,like if you have a wrong stamp for example,and then they will turn it around to see if a return address is present and will ask for it to be added it if it is not there.

I do not know if they will refuse the package if a poster decline to add a return address,but i do know they always ask,or atleast, they always asked me when i did not.

It makes sense though,what happen if a package can not be delivered,if there is no return address,then the only thing they can do is either keep it for themselves or through it away or sell it.

a quick google check on the matter came up with this: http://askville.amazon.com/send-packages-people-return-address/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=30204337



Having read from that link it appears there is a 'rule' that enforces a requirement for a return address on packages.

Does the same apply to letters?

I was asked to add a return address when i wanted to send a letter too.


Thank you.

Except for business correspondence I have never added a return address to letters here, so the concept is strange to me.

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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2012, 11:45:26 AM »

@Just17,
I said "request",not "require".

Here in upstate new york atleast,when you submit something to be posted,the first thing they do is look at the address to see if anything wrong stick out,like if you have a wrong stamp for example,and then they will turn it around to see if a return address is present and will ask for it to be added it if it is not there.

I do not know if they will refuse the package if a poster decline to add a return address,but i do know they always ask,or atleast, they always asked me when i did not.

It makes sense though,what happen if a package can not be delivered,if there is no return address,then the only thing they can do is either keep it for themselves or through it away or sell it.

a quick google check on the matter came up with this: http://askville.amazon.com/send-packages-people-return-address/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=30204337



Having read from that link it appears there is a 'rule' that enforces a requirement for a return address on packages.

Does the same apply to letters?

I was asked to add a return address when i wanted to send a letter too.


Thank you.

Except for business correspondence I have never added a return address to letters here, so the concept is strange to me.




where is "here"?
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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2012, 12:20:30 PM »

@Just17,
I said "request",not "require".

Here in upstate new york atleast,when you submit something to be posted,the first thing they do is look at the address to see if anything wrong stick out,like if you have a wrong stamp for example,and then they will turn it around to see if a return address is present and will ask for it to be added it if it is not there.

I do not know if they will refuse the package if a poster decline to add a return address,but i do know they always ask,or atleast, they always asked me when i did not.

It makes sense though,what happen if a package can not be delivered,if there is no return address,then the only thing they can do is either keep it for themselves or through it away or sell it.

a quick google check on the matter came up with this: http://askville.amazon.com/send-packages-people-return-address/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=30204337



Having read from that link it appears there is a 'rule' that enforces a requirement for a return address on packages.

Does the same apply to letters?

I was asked to add a return address when i wanted to send a letter too.


Thank you.

Except for business correspondence I have never added a return address to letters here, so the concept is strange to me.




where is "here"?


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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2012, 01:44:13 PM »
Let's sue all the bridge operators for letting thieves and murderers to escape from justice, weapons comes to Mexico from USA through bridges, drugs goes to USA through bridges, let's put in jail all operators

Sounds like a plan. A bad plan but a plan nevertheless. But maybe we should keep it sorta quiet, wouldn't want the government to get any ideas about criminalizing anything else.   :(

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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2012, 06:49:59 AM »
EFF - November 28, 2012 | By Erik Bauman and Eva Galperin and Kurt Opsahl and Peter Eckersley

A Tutorial on Anonymous Email Accounts

So, just how do you exchange messages with someone, without leaving discoverable records with your webmail provider? This is an important practical skill, whether you need to use it to keep your love life private, to talk confidentially with a journalist, or because you're engaged in politics in a country where the authorities use law enforcement and surveillance methods against you.

Because webmail providers like Google choose to keep extremely extensive logs1, protecting your pseudonymous webmail against this kind of de-anonymization attack requires forethought and discipline.

You should use the Tor Browser Bundle when setting up and accessing your webmail account. You must always use Tor. If you mess up just once and log into the pseudonymous account from your real IP address, chances are that your webmail provider will keep linkable records about you forever. You will also need to ensure that you do not give your webmail provider any information that is linked to your real world identity. For instance, if prompted for an email account, do not use another real account during signup; use a throwaway address instead.

Download the Tor Browser Bundle

To use Tor, start by downloading the Tor Browser Bundle by going to Tor Download page: https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en, shown in the screenshot below, and click on the Download button for the  appropriate browser bundle for your operating system.

The Tor Bowser Bundle is a zip self-extracting archive. Click "extract" to extract the files from the archive.

To start the Tor Browser in Windows, go to Local Disk-->Program Files-->Tor Browser and double click on "Start Tor Browser,"

When the Tor Browser launches, it will automatically test itself to see if Tor is working correctly. If Tor is correctly anonymizing your traffic, it will display a message saying, "Congratulations. Your browser is configured to use Tor." It will also display the IP address that your traffic appears to be coming from. This is the IP address your webmail provider will see when you go to set up your webmail account.


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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2012, 10:56:44 AM »
Interesting. I wonder what the legal position of a Tor node is. I suspect the owner would count in many countries' laws as an ISP and be required to keep full logs of everything that passes through so the authorities could access it if required.

Which, of course would defeat the object of it, which of course, is to defeat the laws requiring records to be kept for statutory investigations...

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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2012, 02:02:01 PM »
Interesting. I wonder what the legal position of a Tor node is. I suspect the owner would count in many countries' laws as an ISP and be required to keep full logs of everything that passes through so the authorities could access it if required.

Which, of course would defeat the object of it, which of course, is to defeat the laws requiring records to be kept for statutory investigations...

If the law of your land denies you privacy, trying to remain private in spite of the law is likely to be illegal!


Yeah, but there was a Supreme Court ruling her in the U.S. a while back that said no one may be compelled to provide passwords to decrypt data they have encrypted, because in so doing they, in effect, testify against themselves in violation of their Fifth Amendment rights.  I'm just sayin'...  (psst... TrueCrypt!) ;)

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Re: Tor operator charged for child porn transmitted over his servers
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2012, 05:23:58 PM »
Yes, I read about it, but last time I looked, Austria wasn't in the....
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