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Owen Williams - 24 November 2012 - tnw

Every day, we’re bombarded with advertising. Billboards. TV. Internet. Flyers. Cereal. Shoes. Advertising comes in every form and flavor, and it’s impossible to get away from.

I wrote on my blog a few weeks back about how it was interesting that nobody was talking about the fact that Windows 8 bakes in ads  into Microsoft’s Operating System. Shouldn’t this be a big deal or something? Ten years ago Microsoft was in trouble for bundling Internet Explorer, but now bundling applications laden with advertising is okay? I disagree.

If you haven’t been following, various applications that were bundled with Windows 8 include advertising that cannot be disabled. The weather application has a large space for an advert, as does the Xbox Music application (which doesn’t go away when you subscribe to Xbox Music, either). There’s actually a few apps that include ads, and the common theme is that these applications were produced by Microsoft’s Online Services team (Bing). These applications are:

    Games
    News
    Finance
    Travel
    Sports
    Weather
    Xbox Music

Across the internet, various writers have agreed and disagreed about advertising after it was brought up. Some were up in arms about it, and disgusted that Microsoft would do such a thing. Others… thought it was ridiculous to even be talking about it. Arguments like “but it’s not in the system interface or core applications” began popping up.

Ed Bott argues that the content in the applications in question far outweighs the amount of applications that don’t show ads, and says that Microsoft has to pay the Online Services team that is responsible for the applications somehow. He also argues that you can remove them, which is true enough for consumers, but Enterprises aren’t going to be able to without Microsoft InTune (not available until 2013, by the way).

Microsoft’s core business isn’t ads. It’s Windows. But that might change very soon, as the software giant realizes that it can’t try and sell the OS at such a high price point any more and moves to try something new. Ed’s right that the system interface doesn’t include ads, and that the money does go to a different department in Microsoft, but it’s not about that. It’s about what this means going forward.

You might argue that this is all supposition, but Microsoft isn’t new to subsidizing their products to get them in the market. Word Starter Edition is a version of Word that is free to users, but supported by advertising and limited in functionality.

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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 07:40:31 AM »
Isn't this the same business model being used by Google's Android?   Most free apps have ads embedded.
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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2012, 09:44:03 AM »
......  like I care what Windows users have to put up with ......

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2012, 10:02:57 AM »
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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 02:46:47 PM »
Isn't this the same business model being used by Google's Android?   Most free apps have ads embedded.

It maybe indeed, and it is just as rotten to do.




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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 02:59:12 PM »
......  like I care what Windows users have to put up with ......

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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 01:59:10 AM »
I kinda think they are digging a big, deep, expensive hole.  With a little luck, maybe they will fall into it.
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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 01:08:29 PM »
Advertising killed television in my opinion, now it seems there is more time given to adverts than there is actual program.
i just cannot enjoy a program now.
just start getting into it and...................... adverts!

Lets hope the same thing happens to M$.

unfortunately, i suspect they will gain out of it.

maybe it's a case of sales have dropped, Less and Less people want to pay the ever increasing costs of M$ upgrade path, and this is just a different way of clawing some of that lost revenue back.

if it backfires, maybe M$ will have to start thinking long and hard about improving quality of their product line, and stop pushing their ideas on the people and actually listen to what the people really want !

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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 01:20:02 PM »
I kinda think they are digging a big, deep, expensive hole.  With a little luck, maybe they will fall into it.

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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 01:27:42 PM »
I was at the newsagents a short while ago and saw a Windows 8 magazine for sale. It costs £5.00 and was half full of adverts. They're making money from all directions.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 01:53:22 PM »
I was at the newsagents a short while ago and saw a Windows 8 magazine for sale. It costs £5.00 and was half full of adverts. They're making money from all directions.

ah yes, but how many were sold ?

I wouldn't pay £5 ($8 USA) for half a magazine of adverts, of course that's just me, but how many people would ?
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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 04:06:56 PM »
I was at the newsagents a short while ago and saw a Windows 8 magazine for sale. It costs £5.00 and was half full of adverts. They're making money from all directions.

ah yes, but how many were sold ?

I wouldn't pay £5 ($8 USA) for half a magazine of adverts, of course that's just me, but how many people would ?

I bought a lot of mags in my time .......  and the adverts were the most interesting part of a lot of them  :D

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Re: Microsoft’s big Windows 8 secret? It’s actually about advertising.
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 04:42:07 PM »
Isn't this the same business model being used by Google's Android?   Most free apps have ads embedded.

You guys might hate me for this... but this is why I don't mind paying 0.99 to 4.99 for an app on my Blackberry 9810.  NO advertisements..!

Advertising killed television in my opinion, now it seems there is more time given to adverts than there is actual program.
i just cannot enjoy a program now.
just start getting into it and...................... adverts!


This is also why my TV package with Bell, I got all movie channels removed.  I have other means of getting them.
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