First day of the week - Sunday or Monday?

[Crow]

After all, who's in charge of this world?

If somebody have that info I would like to know 

[µT6]

iluminati?

no



that or the influenza in turn 

[Vorteggs]

- The traditionalists (Sunday-ists) are two votes behind us the Monday-ists.

- The vote "None" is from Just18 (or 19?.. can't remember well, Altzheimer you know ).

- One of the two three that are not on Earth is joechimp, I think, cause he is from Antares as all of us know.

- No vote for Other means that a very large part of the world didn't voted

Whadaya thing?

[Bald Brick]

- The traditionalists (Sunday-ists) are two votes behind us the Monday-ists.

- The vote "None" is from Just18 (or 19?.. can't remember well, Altzheimer you know ).

- One of the two three that are not on Earth is joechimp, I think, cause he is from Antares as all of us know.

- No vote for Other means that a very large part of the world didn't voted

Whadaya thing?

You forget that we were allowed to pick two alternatives. So naturally some of us used both the votes you gave us. 

[Crow]

- The traditionalists (Sunday-ists) are two votes behind us the Monday-ists.

Whadaya thing?

Me thinks the people interested in voting are those that like Monday as the first day in the week since they are against the majority who are not interested in voting because we know we are right 

[MGBguy]

- The traditionalists (Sunday-ists) are two votes behind us the Monday-ists.

Whadaya thing?

Me thinks the people interested in voting are those that like Monday as the first day in the week since they are against the majority who are not interested in voting because we know we are right 

That would be me as well.    However, the calendar companies here in the USA seem to print all calendars starting with Sunday.

Regardless, I make a special request of one of my daughters for an Amazing Spider-man (print) Calendar every year as a Christmas present. Sometimes a difficult task; but somehow she comes through. To me, this is love. 

[ppiklapp]

......  Monday is the first working day for most people I believe ......

And Monday was the first (working) day for of God too, manufacturing Earth and us, according to Jewish an our Cristian myths
On calendar they say about the end but they don't consider the beginning And the beginning is Monday, on the myth, isn't it?

Yaey, yaey  

Not many theologians would agree with that.

I don't want to turn this into a discussion about religion, but as the Jewish Shabbat falls on Saturday the manufacturing process must traditionally have started on the preceding Sunday....

And actually the original Christian resting day was also Saturday (as it still is for  Seventh-day Adventists). The French name for Saturday reminds us of this: samedi is a contraction of sabbati dies (literally "the Day of the Sabbath"). And according to Wikipedia "All Slavic languages derive their name for Saturday from the name for Sabbath".

Sunday became a more special day for most Christians because it was the day of the resurrection. Again the French name for the day tells the same story: dimanche is a contraction of dies Dominica, ("the Day of the Lord").

I appreciate the education on the subject and I am sorry about my comment about Christian viewpoints.  I have a tendency to go over the top because of the individuals I interact with.  Several have the idea that they are the only ones with the right ideas and everyone else is wrong for not being them.

[newmikey]

It should be Sunday at least in all countries with a judeo-christian heritage. Sunday or "yom rishon" in Hebrew which literally translates to "the first day". Previous posters were right about Sunday being the day of resurrection.

Wikipedia correctly states:

Sunday (Listeni/ˈsʌndeɪ/ or /ˈsʌndi/) is the day of the week between Saturday and Monday. For most Christians, Sunday is observed as a day for worship of God and rest, due to the belief that it is Lord's Day, the day of Christ's resurrection.

Sunday is a day of rest in most Western countries, part of 'the weekend'. In most Muslim countries, and Israel, Sunday is a working day.

According to the Hebrew calendars and traditional Christian calendars, Sunday is the first day of the week. According to the International Organization for Standardization ISO 8601 Sunday is the seventh and last day of the week.

In the Judaeo-Christian as well as in Islamic tradition, Sunday has been considered as the first day of the week. A number of languages express this position either by the name for the day or by the naming of the other days. In Hebrew it is called יום ראשון yom rishon, in Arabic أحدal-ahad, in Persian and related languages یکشنبه yek-shanbe, all meaning "first". In Greek, the names of the days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday ("Δευτέρα, "Τρίτη,", "Τετάρτη," and "Πέμπτη") mean "second," "third", "fourth", and "fifth," respectively. This leaves Sunday in the first position of the week count. The current Greek name for Sunday, Κυριακή (Kyriake), means "Lord's Day" coming from the word Κύριος (Kyrios), which is the Greek word for "Lord". Similarly in Portuguese, where the days from Monday to Friday are counted as Segunda-feira, Terça-feira, Quarta-feira, Quinta-feira and Sexta-feira, while Sunday itself similar to Greek has the name of "Lord's Day" (domingo). In Vietnamese, the working days in the week are named as: "Thứ Hai" (second day), "Thứ Ba" (third day), "Thứ Tư" (fourth day), "Thứ Năm" (fifth day), "Thứ Sáu" (sixth day), "Thứ Bảy" (seventh day). Sunday is called "Chủ Nhật," a corrupted form of "Chúa Nhật" meaning "Lord's Day." Some colloquial text in the south of Vietnam and from the church may still use the old form to mean Sunday.

A similar system of naming days of the week occurs in Portuguese. Monday is "segunda-feira," which means "second day," also showing Sunday ("domingo") to be counted as the first day. Modern Latin uses "feria secunda" for Monday.

[Just17]

It should be Sunday at least in all countries with a judeo-christian heritage. Sunday or "yom rishon" in Hebrew which literally translates to "the first day". Previous posters were right about Sunday being the day of resurrection.

I don't know if it was intended or not, but that statement says that religion should determine such things ....... with which I totally disagree.

Religion is & should be a personal belief system, if that is someone's want, but there is no reason (beyond historical and all that 'historical' involves, including wars etc) that personal belief systems should impinge on secular society.

Modern societies can determine which day they want to be their first day of the week and religious belief systems per se have no place in that determination.

[Bald Brick]

I don't know if it was intended or not, but that statement says that religion should determine such things

I certainly don't like the idea that anybody's beliefs should determine how other people live their lives. Nor do I like the idea that an international standards organisation should meddle with traditions, religious or secular, unless there is a very compelling reason.

[kjpetrie]

We're straying into politics (spiritual aka religion or otherwise) so we need to be careful. I suspect the tradition of the week and the numbering of days is even more ancient than the Hebrews. There's no sign of them inventing it and since they only knew the days by number, how did they know which one to designate as the first? Yet all cultures seem to agree which day is which, which suggests the week existed before the ancient Hebrews designated the last day as their Sabbath.

What we lose if the ISO designates the 'wrong' day as the first is continuity with ancient documents and those languages which still know days by number rather than name, although it sounds as if there is an existing problem with East Africa even then.

It depends whether you think continuity matters. The ISO apparently doesn't.

[Bald Brick]

We're straying into politics (spiritual aka religion or otherwise) so we need to be careful. I suspect the tradition of the week and the numbering of days is even more ancient than the Hebrews. There's no sign of them inventing it and since they only knew the days by number, how did they know which one to designate as the first? Yet all cultures seem to agree which day is which, which suggests the week existed before the ancient Hebrews designated the last day as their Sabbath.

What we lose if the ISO designates the 'wrong' day as the first is continuity with ancient documents and those languages which still know days by number rather than name, although it sounds as if there is an existing problem with East Africa even then.

It depends whether you think continuity matters. The ISO apparently doesn't.

Those are precisely the points I've been trying to make, but you expressed them more succinctly and consequently better.

[Just17]

It depends whether you think continuity matters. The ISO apparently doesn't.

I expect new 'standards' to have to be different to some historical stuff ......  I don't see it as a worry or negative in any way.

[kjpetrie]

Backward compatibility!

[muungwana]

What we lose if the ISO designates the 'wrong' day as the first is continuity with ancient documents and those languages which still know days by number rather than name, although it sounds as if there is an existing problem with East Africa even then.

It depends whether you think continuity matters. The ISO apparently doesn't.

When i was a a kid, i remember having a discussion with other students about this.

Some were saying the first day of the week was sunday and i,among other students were saying it must be Saturday because Sunday being the first day did not make sense.The argument was because "Sunday" is "jumapili",as in "day two" and it did not make sense to call "day two" as the first day.Apparently,at the time,everybody in the world spoke swahili and what does not agree with the language was not correct.Being a kid and not knowing a bit more is fun sometimes.

"Wednesday" in swahili is "jumatano", "tano" means "five" so "jumatano" translates to "day five". Making "Wednesday"  the first day of the week may not be very problematic in english but calling "day five" as the first day of the week may seem odd even to a 2 year old.