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[SOLVED] After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« on: November 05, 2012, 02:38:37 PM »
I just did an install of 2012.8 MiniMe, with existing home folder intact, and noticed that I have no sound in certain YouTube videos.
After a little searching about, it seems that I have been volunteered for their HTML5 test and the sound issue is only with those videos.

(YouTube HTML5 info: http://www.youtube.com/html5)

I could opt out of the HTML5 test, but I would rather not - I prefer the HTML5 to the Flash version; but mainly because this worked just yesterday, on the previous install.

Does anyone know what I could be missing for this? Could it be a codec I haven't installed (that I had on the previous installation)?

I picked a couple of videos at random, to illustrate:

Example of HTML5 where I have no sound:
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxR7dVPKnD4#(Edit: Sorry, I had to make this link not-clickable as otherwise it would show up embedded in this page as the old Flash version.)

Ex. of the old Flash version where I have sound:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkUpfw4Hf3w&feature=fvwrel#ws]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkUpfw4Hf3w&feature=fvwrel#ws
Of course, I assume that the HTML5 version is only going to be shown for those - like me - that has been 'volunteered' by YouTube for the trial of HTML5.
(If you want to know whether what you are looking at is the newer HTML5, right-click on the video to see the contents menu. The last item is About HTML5.)

Anyway, ideas most welcome.

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« Last Edit: November 07, 2012, 07:46:17 AM by CJ »

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 05:15:52 AM »
After a lot of searching about, it seems like this is a common issue - for some.

It all seems to boil down to FF not using the patented H.264 decoder, whereas that's the way of YouTube HTML5.
If that it what it is, so be it... but this used to work on my previous install, so I would like to know if this works for any other PCLOS users; in which case I need to find a fix.

Could I please get someone to try the following:
1. Go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and enable HTML5.
2. Play
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxR7dVPKnD4#]www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxR7dVPKnD4# and let me know if you have sound.

If you do have sound, go to http://html5test.com/ and let me know what you have under the Audio heading (is all enabled?).

When I go to http://html5test.com/, I get:
Code: [Select]
PCM audio support Yes ✔
AAC support No ✘
MP3 support No ✘
Ogg Vorbis support Yes ✔
Ogg Opus support Yes ✔
WebM support Yes ✔


Thanks for any help on this!

Cheers!
CJ

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 05:38:00 AM »
I played the HTML link in Chromium without having to do anything else.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxR7dVPKnD4#


What a piece!  Brilliant!

Because you have installed Minime there are likely codecs and other packages that you need to install to get full functionality.

That would be my first suggestion.

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          Also tried it in Firefox .....  no problems  ;) ......  and other browsers such as Arora, Midori etc with no problems.

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 05:40:20 AM »
Because you have installed Minime there are likely codecs and other packages that you need to install to get full functionality.


Hopefully, yes - though I have tried quite a few without success.

One thing, though: it seems that it is only FF that is the issue. You don't happen to have that installed?

Thank you for helping out, much appreciated!

Cheers!
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EDIT:
          Also tried it in Firefox .....  no problems  ;) ......  and other browsers such as Arora, Midori etc with no problems.


Ha ha, almost beat me to it!

Could I ask you to tell me your Audio results from http://html5test.com/?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 05:44:34 AM by CJ »

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 05:54:13 AM »
Using Firefox 16.02 - I just tested the Bohemian Rhapsody for solo guitar  url you provided and it works fine here.

Also tested in Konqueror (Version 4.9.2) and that played fine.
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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 06:00:28 AM »
Thank you so much! In other words, no doubt the issue is locally with my install.

Just to rule out any doubt, you both did play it as HTML5, right?

Also, if I could ask both of you to tell me your Audio results from http://html5test.com/, that would be helpful to me (I hope).

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« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 06:36:48 AM by CJ »

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 06:23:47 AM »
Thank you so much! In other words, no doubt the issue is locally with my install.

Just to rule out any doubt, you both did play it as HTML5, right?

Also, if I could ask both of you to tell me your Audio results from http://html5test.com/, that would be helpful to me (I hope).

Cheers!
CJ



404 Not found for that link.

EDIT -----  used the earlier link which worked

401 plus 9 bonus = 410 points  -- Chromium Browser

357 plus 10 bonus = 367 points -- Firefox

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 06:39:22 AM »
404 Not found for that link.

EDIT -----  used the earlier link which worked

401 plus 9 bonus = 410 points  -- Chromium Browser

357 plus 10 bonus = 367 points -- Firefox



For some reason, the comma became part of the URL - corrected now.

Thank you for that,much appreciated!

I was mostly interested in the Audio part of that site, for FF; e.g. mine:
Code: [Select]
PCM audio support Yes ✔
AAC support No ✘
MP3 support No ✘
Ogg Vorbis support Yes ✔
Ogg Opus support Yes ✔
WebM support Yes ✔

Would you mind terribly pasting that in for me?

Cheers!
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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 06:40:50 AM »
Link 1 makes noise

Link 2, that's more like it

Score 372 +10 Bonus
(Audio 20+4 ,no mp3 or aac)

Firefox + standard up to date KDE, codecs via install of VLC probably.

It's probably a codec or firefox addon missing.
I have mozplugger, mplayer, quicktime, realplayer, windows mediaplayer.

??gstreamer-ffmpeg?
« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 06:47:58 AM by Phil »

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 06:59:44 AM »
Phil, thanks for that much appreciated...

Link 1 makes noise
So... sound didn't work?

Firefox + standard up to date KDE, codecs via install of VLC probably.

It's probably a codec or firefox addon missing.
I have mozplugger, mplayer, quicktime, realplayer, windows mediaplayer.

??gstreamer-ffmpeg?
So far,tried VLC (always good to have) and gstreamer-ffmpeg real quick, but no success.

Haven't looked at add-ons yet, but as I am using the same /home as previous install, thus FF with same add-ons - it is not likely...

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 07:55:40 AM »
Link one played fine, not to my taste.

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 08:52:21 AM »
Link one played fine, not to my taste.
Ah... that kind of noise...

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 10:29:06 AM »
The Bohemian Rhapsody sounded great in Opera, Chromium and Firefox -- with both HTML5 or Adobe Flash. HTML5 did not work in Konquereor, which fell back to Flash. Haven't tested other browsers.
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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 11:29:48 AM »
The Bohemian Rhapsody sounded great in Opera, Chromium and Firefox -- with both HTML5 or Adobe Flash. HTML5 did not work in Konquereor, which fell back to Flash. Haven't tested other browsers.

Thank you for that, appreciated!

I found an older machine - actually not that old, updated until about four month ago - also from a Mini Me install... and yes, it worked fine there.
I went through as much as I could think of in Synaptic (gstreamer- and x264 stuff), and as far as I can tell, I have the same installed here.
(It has a FF a few numbers earlier, but surely not...)

There must be something I am missing on this machine - but I am running out of ideas as to what.
If you or anyone feel like throwing a few packages/libs suggestions at me, please feel free. I won't even duck!

Cheers!
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« Last Edit: November 06, 2012, 11:31:21 AM by CJ »

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Re: After re-install, YouTube HTML5 versions have no sound.
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 03:53:23 PM »
CJ,
       It is not clear from your posts if you have tried other browsers or not.
Can you let me know if this problem exists with all browsers?
If it does then this post might be of assistance
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,108896.0.html

My second suggestion would be to create a 'test' user on that install.
Then log in to 'test' and try to play the same Youtube files in the browser/s.
Let us know what the results are.

We need to narrow down the problem areas, which might give some indication of cause.

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