KDE4 - It still looks a bit too cartoony

[Phil]

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LinusTorvalds/posts/DbmEE8kXLDA

Linus Torvalds
Yesterday 01:27  -  Public
I'm trying out KDE after a long absense.

It still looks a bit too cartoony, and the default widget/plasmoid behavior with mouse-over pretty much immediately showing the controls for it annoys the hell of me. You can lock the widgets down and they calm down and act normal, but it's some really odd and distracting default behavior.

But ah, the ability to configure things. And I have wobbly windows again.

I do understand why some gnome people think that KDE may have gone a bit overboard on the configuration ability, though. Because some of the "you can configure everything" things are just odd.

Like being able to rotate those desktop widgets any which way you want. "I wonder what that odd rotation thing on the widget control bar does? Whee - trippy".

As a result, right now my terminal and web browser buttons look like a drunken fratboy has been messing with my desktop. I suspect I'll turn them back to their boring upright position (because that's how I roll - boring), but for now I'm mildly amused by the sheer whimsicality of it all.

[aguila]

Did he ever try PCLOS?

Maybe someone should really recommend it to him....

[Just17]

I couldn't care less what he thinks about it .......  or anyone else for that matter 

Seems he is amusing himself like a "drunken fratboy"   

[Georgetoon]

I like it!  Well, I am a cartoonist...

[herpy]

XFCE FTW 

[chilly]

Looks ok to me although i just booted up a pclinuxos 2010 version and was amazed how clean it looked

[ZX80Man]

What's not to like?
I would have imagined him just using a command line...
 

[ruel24]

First of all, I couldn't care less what Torvalds thinks. Second, KDE is heads and shoulders above all other UI's, including the Mac. Third, I simply love the flexibility and customizability of KDE. I'll continue using it and haven't found another UI that I like better on any platform.

[kjpetrie]

Curious that even someone like LT apparently confuses the theme with the application, and also doesn't realise it's initially set up with widgets unlocked so you can customise it before locking it for use.

Or perhaps he's suggesting other people won't realise these things...

[Linuzoid]

First of all, I couldn't care less what Torvalds thinks. Second, KDE is heads and shoulders above all other UI's, including the Mac. Third, I simply love the flexibility and customizability of KDE. I'll continue using it and haven't found another UI that I like better on any platform.

+1, I feel the same way. Seems Linus is always complaining about something anyway. 

[Wildman]

Hey, I think its great he tried the KDE desktop, and commented without the normal language he uses. (IIRC), he is hard corer gnome material...
Otherwise, who give a rats patooie what he thinks! 

[Serj]

First of all, I couldn't care less what Torvalds thinks. Second, KDE is heads and shoulders above all other UI's, including the Mac. Third, I simply love the flexibility and customizability of KDE. I'll continue using it and haven't found another UI that I like better on any platform.

+1. At last! Linus Torvalds chose the right interface!

[Archie]

Curious that even someone like LT apparently confuses the theme with the application, and also doesn't realise it's initially set up with widgets unlocked so you can customise it before locking it for use.

Or perhaps he's suggesting other people won't realise these things...

He's probably got a point. But implying that users (never mind the developers) are not smart enough to learn and adapt is just typical of him.

Also, of all people, he should understand that there are only a few who might like to setup their DEs the way he does. Configurations are one of the best stuff in Linux where we can all use the conservative defaults or bomb out to extremes ... it's all about the choices. Amusement is just part of the experience. I'm glad it's all there.

[GermanTux]

He's probably got a point. But implying that users (never mind the developers) are not smart enough to learn and adapt is just typical of him.

Also, of all people, he should understand that there are only a few who might like to setup their DEs the way he does. Configurations are one of the best stuff in Linux where we can all use the conservative defaults or bomb out to extremes ... it's all about the choices. Amusement is just part of the experience. I'm glad it's all there.

Absolutely.  Although I no longer use KDE, i've always admired the thought process that that devs have implemented - make everything configurable.  Don't like that pixel in the right-center?  You can change it.  Set it to what you prefer.  Linux has always been about choice, and KDe ambraces that in a desktop environment. 

[Bald Brick]

Hey, I think its great he tried the KDE desktop, and commented without the normal language he uses. (IIRC), he is hard corer gnome material...

I seem to remember that at one time he preferred KDE as the early versions of Gnome 2 weren't configurable enough for his taste. Then KDE4 made him jump ship because he found the early versions too buggy, which they were. And when Gnome 3 came he again started trying out other desktop environments. Entirely rational behaviour, if you aren't a fanboy.

Personally I never stopped using KDE, but the reason was mainly that Texstar held out and didn't drop KDE3 before it was absolutely inevitable -- and even then KDE4 was so buggy that I came close to switching to Enlightenment. (But I suppose most of you don't remember those times. It was, after all, a couple of years ago....)

And now Linus is back on KDE. Good for him (and probably good for KDE). That doesn't mean that all of you Gnome users, or LXDE users, or XFCE users, are expected to follow his example. That's not what Linux is about.

Also note that Linus never wrote that the ability to  rotate the widgets is a bad thing. Like some of us he just found it odd....

Otherwise, who give a rats patooie what he thinks!