<< Solved>> Tried to upgrade from 2012 to 2012 Full Monty

[kentgbailey]

First I tried just to install from the DVD without deleting the old installation. System just shut down with no explanation. Then I deleted the partitions (had to reinstall Windows because GRUB was clobbered evidently)
and tried again. Still just shuts down. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

[menotu]

First I tried just to install from the DVD without deleting the old installation. System just shut down with no explanation. Then I deleted the partitions (had to reinstall Windows because GRUB was clobbered evidently)
and tried again. Still just shuts down. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for your help.

More info required  

Specs for your  machine (ram, video card. cpu etc)

There are various 2012 releases -  KDE, LXDE, XFCE released during various months in 2012

When you say you tried without deleting the old installation. do you mean you were installing it "alongside" your current "2012" setup or overwriting it - and were you keeping your /home in place?

Where does it shut down?  during boot?, at the desktop?  Does the DVD load to the desktop?

I would check that the Full Monty iso is a "good" download and the md5sum check is good. And check the DVD was a good burn.

I personally always "pre" format my drives and partitions prior to installation so the partitions are ready and waiting

[kjpetrie]

That sounds like a rather pointless exercise. FM is highly customised, so it wouldn't be possible to install it without reformatting /home. Even restoring /home from a backup after installing would destroy its desktop activities.

The only way to install it would be to backup those specific parts of your data (Documents, E-mails etc) and make sure no customisation was included, and then do a clean install before restoring that limited data.

Alternatively, forget FM and install the applications you want from Synaptic and set up activities to suit your needs.

[kentgbailey]

I had 2012 KDE succesfully loaded along with my Windows partition.
After unsuccessfully trying to install the Full Monty I then deleted the 2012 KDE and released all the partitions to free space.
I then tried to install 2012 Full Monty and it still just signs me off.
Why is that happening?

[kjpetrie]

Then we need the information menotu asked for.

[kentgbailey]

First to answer Menotu's questions:

I have an Acer Aspire E380; Processor is AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+, 2300 Mhz, 2 Cores, 2 Logical Processors; BIOS Version /Date Phoenix Technologies LTD R01-B1 12/29/2006;SMBIOS Version 2.3; 4.0 GB Ram (3.0 GB Usable);32 Bit Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium; ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series Graphics Card.

The DVD Loads to the desktop perfectly and runs appropriately. The DVD was a good burn.

However, when I attempt to install PCLINUXOS to my hard drive the system immediately reboots without comment.

I have also tried to install PCLINUX KDE 2012-09. It runs perfectly just like the Full Monty. However, again, when I try to install it on my hard drive (465 GB Hitachi with 151 free Gigabytes) that too, just reboots.

The ironic thing is that I had originally installed PCLINUX KDE 2012-04 successfully but synaptic was getting checksum errors and the sound didn't work after a certain point so I wanted a newer version since Synaptic didn't seem to be able to clear it up.

I don't understand why it won't install now. Please help me, I really like working with Linux. In my earlier days I became familiar with Unix, and have installed many Unix systems in the past....


Thank you, again, for any constructive suggestions.


Kent G. Bailey

[Just17]

Check BIOS to see if the HDD is in 'compatibility mode' ....  if yes change to AHCI

[kentgbailey]

I checked the BIOS. Nowhere do I see an HDD mode. Enlighten me, please.

[sling-shot]

[kentgbailey]

When exactly does the system reboot?
AFAIK, one has to click on an Install PCLinuxOS icon present on the default desktop to get the installation started.
Does it reboot as soon as you click it or does it take a few steps / show a window or something and then reboot?

On another line of thought, is it possible to open Konsole, hit su and enter root for root password and then hit drakinstall and watch what happens?

[kentgbailey]

Thank you sling-shot! I got a little bit farther this time.

Got into console mode su to root
then

entered the command draklive-install

The familiar window came up and prompted for "next"

This time the command window gave me the following message:

Cannot find device "sdc2"

What's going on?

[sling-shot]

How many storage devices are attached to this laptop?

What is the output of fdisk -l

That sdc2 ideally refers to a hard disk or USB drive or something.

[kentgbailey]

Thank you Sling-Shot I was able to isolate the error. It was a bad installation on my auxiliary hard drive which had an old copy of Windows. I reformatted the drive and was able to proceed.

However, now, no matter how much space I allocate to my Windows Drive Draklive-install always comes up the the statement that I didn't have enough disk space to install. I gave my Windows drive a free space partition of 100 GB and it still didn't recognize it. I guess I need to learn more about partitioning, but I was hoping that the automatic partitioning would work.

I appreciate you're bearing with me, but I really would like to get started with using and understanding Linux. 

Do you have any suggestions??


Thank you, again, for your time and effort.

Kent Bailey

[agmg]

If I understood correctly, you have a main hard disk in which you have Windows 7 installed and it has 151GB of free space and a secondary one that you don't give us info about. Are they connected on your computer simultaneously?

Like sling-shot wrote: in terminal type fdisk-l as root (with su)
This will give us a view of your partitions and how they are laid on the disk(s).

[kentgbailey]

Yes, the second drive is a 140 GB NTFS drive with nothing on it. I had just formatted it before because it had kept me from being able to even get into the installation process. It was the "C" drive from a previous system that I had used for auxiliary storage. After I got the not enough disk space error again I brought up a Konsole and issued the command fdisk -l. I came up with devices sda1, sda2, sda5, sda6, and sda7.

sda1 contained 472,455,553 blocks and was the NTFS partition.
sda2 contained 15,928,447 blocks and it was simply labeled "extended".
sda5 contained 8,297,541 blocks and was labeled "Linux".
sda6 contained 923,786 blocks and was labeled "Linux Swap/Solaris"
sda7 contained 6,707,106 blocks and was labeled "Linux"

The auxiliary drive was not modified.


Something does not add up, here. According to the output a block is 512 bytes. It would make better sense if a block were 1 megabyte instead.

Can you help me with these mysteries? I am stumped.

[agmg]

It would be much more easier if you just copied and pasted the output of fdisk -l from the terminal
Like this:

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[root@localhost agmg]# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077292

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048      206847      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2          206848   163842047    81817600    7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda3       163846935   902049749   369101407+   5  Extended
/dev/sda5       163846998   195045164    15599083+  83  Linux
/dev/sda6       195045228   203222249     4088511   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda7       203222313   818800919   307789303+  83  Linux
/dev/sda8       818800983   843492824    12345921   83  Linux
/dev/sda9       843492888   869180759    12843936   83  Linux
/dev/sda10      869180823   889663634    10241406   83  Linux
/dev/sda11      889663698   902049749     6193026   83  Linux
Anyway, lets have a look at your disk:
The first partition is NTFS, has a size of about 100MB and is a system partition that Windows7 always create to put system files in it.
The second one is also NTFS, has a size of about 472GB and it is the one that has Windows7 in it.
Then you have an extended partition of about 16GB which in turn contains 3 logical ones: sda5 (about 8GB), sda6 (about 1GB) and sda7 (about 7GB).

When installing, you must set a mount point for / (root), one for swap and one for /home.
In your case these should be sda5 (/), sda6 (swap), sda7 (/home).
Is this what you were trying to do?