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Offline tele

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KDE - updates [questions]
« on: October 17, 2012, 01:25:32 PM »
1. How long live one version KDE ?
2. Will it be possible to make stable KDE ?
I ask because a little worried.
KDE is beautiful, but but I see it a bit problematic.
 Example:
 Firefox
Some time ago
seemed so often update
happens to the developers do not update their applications
too little time, and is part of the developers who do not update their products.
this is from 2011
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I have a similar question about KDE
Is the software update by the developers of the distribution, including pc-linux is problematic?
it seems to me to be problematic.
Even if the developers take care not to use extensions
or it can be switched off, KDE also featured to work well on older hardware
( Full Scene Anti-Aliasing
HDR
Pixel Shader
Vertex Shader
Transform & Lighting
GPGPU
PhysX, and more... )
This is still a software problem.
Like python and qt must be stable,
What do I mean?
that their software must support older programs a little longer,
I do not know, 3 years, 2 years?
and the update may add some accessories,
When does the old version, the new should be selected.
Other developers also need to remember that if their software has an effect on some other software, but the rest of the developers have a free hand and can do whatever he wants, because it makes no difference.

Or maybe it's the fault of the people?
After all, no one forces you to use the new python or qt.

( Sory for my englisz :)  )
« Last Edit: October 17, 2012, 01:53:08 PM by tele »
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Re: KDE - updates [questions]
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 02:06:57 PM »
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happens to the developers do not update their applications

That;s because stability is foremost in how the applications are released - many are tested prior to being released to check for possible stability problems

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Is the software update by the developers of the distribution, including pc-linux is problematic?

Not if it's updated correctly

You can't have your cake and eat it  ;D You either want "fast" releases which may cause instability problems or wait a short while for stable releases; (although they aren't mutually exclusive)
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Re: KDE - updates [questions]
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 02:57:52 PM »
"1. How long live one version KDE ?"

kde developers release this information, they say when a beta is being tested, when it will be released and what features will be added in the next version, when the new version is released, you can keep the old one for some time, we did that with kde 4.6.5, we used it for almost a year and a half but depends on multiple factors

"2. Will it be possible to make stable KDE ?"

pclinus always uses the most stable version released, we don't use the latest just because it is the latest

if you find problems with the current version of kde you can try to fix those problems or use a older version from another distro that doesn't do rolling releases and makes you reinstall each 6 months or each year, that way you don't have to worry about updates because there isn't any

kde is just a base, it can support some tools, extensions and apps but not everything can be supported forever

the idea is that if a new version is released, the developers of apps and tools related to it, verify if something has to be updated or fixed to keep them working with the new kde release

it is the same as in firefox, they offer a base and tools to develop extensions, addons, themes, skins and plugins but if the developer leaves his creation abandoned and outdated, firefox is not the one to be blamed if it becomes insecure, obsolete and stops working

when kde 4 was released, pclinux waited a long time before adopting kde4, while the new kde4 was stable enough for us, that took almost 2 years

when we began installing it, many users complained about some apps not working as it should and others not present at all

some were direct kde development team fault but others, basically were abandoned by the original developer

one was really important to many users but the developer never did much to try port it from one platform to another so the app was abandoned for almost 4 years, i ignore his current status, can't even remember the name  :-\  possibly quanta plus but not sure

think on kde as a base, we use the most stable base available at the moment and we keep updating or fixing what needs to and keep up with the linux environment that is evolving considerably faster than other platforms

"KDE also featured to work well on older hardware
( Full Scene Anti-Aliasing
HDR
Pixel Shader
Vertex Shader
Transform & Lighting
GPGPU
PhysX, and more... )
This is still a software problem."

part of this is depends not on kde, depends on the companies releasing or not tools, information and drivers for their video cards, linux works with what it has or what it can while trying to support new hardware, taking advantage of new features and trying not to abandon hardware when it has been abandoned by the manufacturer along time ago

linux in general tries to cover a really big market, desktop, laptops and portable devices(that is now a even bigger market) and that surely is not a easy task
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Re: KDE - updates [questions]
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 09:02:58 AM »
Real programmer creates programs to serve others, not
to create them and to take care of them.
known
  if created, uses, and it does not work, repair,
Machine code itself does not change and could therefore always act and such a program,
could work, and it always amazes me that he is a little different.
Perhaps the most stable is gcc,
is this true?
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Re: KDE - updates [questions]
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 11:48:59 AM »
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Real programmer creates programs to serve others,

Interesting idea ..........  my impression is that programmes (open source) are created to 'scratch an itch' of the programmer ........  and if they are useful to others then that is good too.

Of course commercially developed programmes are different as the programmers are paid to produce something for others!
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Re: KDE - updates [questions]
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 01:58:57 PM »
the point is that everyone wants to do something in life
something that makes sense,
If you will be the sense of the creation-care and it will do it.
The idea here is to avoid unnecessary work and do what everyone likes.
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