SOLVED - Uninstalled strigi and now Pclos won't start.

[Maurice]

This morning I used Synaptic to uninstall strigi as I never use it anyway. Then, when I tried to reopen synaptic I got the message - "...not found".

I switched off and when I restarted I got a "Welcome to localhost.localdomain. Login." I logged in with my username and password but the screen went blank and then hung. Ctrl/alt or any combinations would work and I had to do a hard switch off. Tried again using root to login but the same happened - a blank screen and hard hang.

Took out my trusty livecd and the same thing happened again.

Surely merely uninstalling strigi would not cause this? But if it did how do I get back in again?

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks

[muungwana]

what other package was marked for removed when you set to remove it?

some packages have very complicated dependency chains and they sometimes drag out a lot of essential packages when they are set to be removed.

It is always advised to look at what else will be removed when removing packages.

[gseaman]

Strigi is a fundamental part of KDE, I believe. You can keep it from running, but you can't remove it.

Galen

[sling-shot]

If by blank screen you mean that not even command prompt is displayed, then probably you need a reinstallation.

But if you do have command prompt, experts here may be able to get you back up running without much loss. You may have the OpenBox shell or something like that.

Please clarify. Preferably post a photo of the screen.

[Maurice]

Thanks for all the replies.

muungwana
what other package was marked for removed when you set to remove it?

some packages have very complicated dependency chains and they sometimes drag out a lot of essential packages when they are set to be removed.

It is always advised to look at what else will be removed when removing packages.

Didn't notice.   But I will the next time.

Galen
Strigi is a fundamental part of KDE, I believe. You can keep it from running, but you can't remove it.


I wanted to disable it at first but it was not in the list of running programs.

sling-shot
If by blank screen you mean that not even command prompt is displayed, then probably you need a reinstallation.

But if you do have command prompt, experts here may be able to get you back up running without much loss. You may have the OpenBox shell or something like that.

Please clarify. Preferably post a photo of the screen.

Nothing there to make a photo of, just blank. No command prompt, nothing. I have been out for 4 hours and just tried again but  same result. I think you're right - reinstall.

But how do I reinstall if I get the same blank screen with my livecd?

[Maurice]

All is well - I had forgotten to fix the boot order in Bios.  So I can now do a reinstall.

Many thanks for your help.

Maurice

[menotu]

This system is running KDE 4.9.0 so I'm unsure whether allpackages being removed would be exactly the same as KDE 4.8.x

I tested (without applying it) just what strigi would remove - see following

strigi will be removed with configuration
DoAsRoot will be removed
akonadi-google will be removed
amarok will be removed
bangarang will be removed
bluedevil will be removed
choqok will be removed
gwenrename will be removed
k3b will be removed
k9copy will be removed
kactivities will be removed
kaffeine will be removed
kamerka will be removed
kate will be removed
kate-libs will be removed
kate-part will be removed
kcm-qt-graphicssystem will be removed
kde-admin will be removed
kde-baseapps will be removed
kde-baseapps-core will be removed
kde-baseapps-dolphin will be removed
kde-baseapps-kdepasswd will be removed
kde-baseapps-kdialog will be removed
kde-baseapps-kfind will be removed
kde-baseapps-plasma will be removed
kde-edu-khangman will be removed
kde-edu-marble will be removed
kde-games-bovo will be removed
kde-games-core will be removed
kde-games-katomic will be removed
kde-games-kbattleship will be removed
kde-games-kbreakout will be removed
kde-games-kigo will be removed
kde-games-kiriki will be removed
kde-games-kmahjongg will be removed
kde-games-kmines will be removed
kde-games-kpat will be removed
kde-games-ksudoku will be removed
kde-games-lskat will be removed
kde-graphics-gwenview will be removed
kde-graphics-kgamma will be removed
kde-graphics-kolourpaint will be removed
kde-graphics-ksnapshot will be removed
kde-graphics-okular will be removed
kde-graphics-strigi-analyzer will be removed
kde-multimedia-audiocd-kio will be removed
kde-multimedia-core will be removed
kde-multimedia-dragonplayer will be removed
kde-multimedia-ffmpegthumbnailer will be removed
kde-multimedia-juk will be removed
kde-multimedia-kmix will be removed
kde-multimedia-kscd will be removed
kde-multimedia-mplayerthumbnailer will be removed
kde-pim will be removed
kde-pim-core will be removed
kde-pim-devel will be removed
kde-pimakonadi-mailfilter-agent will be removed
kde-pimakonadiconsole will be removed
kde-pimakregator will be removed
kde-pimblogilo will be removed
kde-pimconsole will be removed
kde-pimkaddressbook will be removed
kde-pimkalarm will be removed
kde-pimkincidenceeditor will be removed
kde-pimkjots will be removed
kde-pimkleopatra will be removed
kde-pimkmail will be removed
kde-pimknode will be removed
kde-pimknotes will be removed
kde-pimkontact will be removed
kde-pimkorganizer will be removed
kde-pimkresources will be removed
kde-pimktimetracker will be removed
kde-pimlibs will be removed
kde-pimlibs-devel will be removed
kde-pimruntime will be removed
kde-pimruntime-devel will be removed
kde-plasma-addons will be removed
kde-runtime will be removed
kde-runtime-help will be removed
kde-runtime-nepomuk will be removed
kde-services will be removed
kde-smooth-tasks will be removed
kde-utils-ark will be removed
kde-utils-filelight will be removed
kde-utils-kcalc will be removed
kde-utils-kfloppy will be removed
kde-utils-kwallet will be removed
kde-utils-printer-applet will be removed
kde-workspace will be removed
kde-workspace-core will be removed
kde4-config-flash will be removed
kdelibs will be removed
kdelibs-devel will be removed
kdenetwork will be removed
kdenetwork-core will be removed
kdenetwork-filesharing will be removed
kdenetwork-kdnssd will be removed
kdenetwork-kget will be removed
kdenetwork-kopete will be removed
kdenetwork-kopete-latex will be removed
kdenetwork-kppp will be removed
kdenetwork-krdc-krfb will be removed
kdm will be removed
keurocalc will be removed
kffmpegthumbnailer will be removed
kflickr will be removed
kgmailnotifier will be removed
kgrubeditor will be removed
kim will be removed
kio-locate will be removed
kio-recentdocument will be removed
kio-recoll will be removed
kio-sysinfo will be removed
kio_gopher will be removed
klinkstatus will be removed
kmymoney will be removed
knemo will be removed
kommander will be removed
konsole will be removed
konsole-part will be removed
kpartsplugin will be removed
krename will be removed
ktorrent will be removed
kwrite will be removed
libgwenviewlib4 will be removed
libkcddb will be removed
libkcddb-devel will be removed
libkcompactdisc will be removed
libkdcraw will be removed
libkdeedu will be removed
libkexiv2 will be removed
libkgoogle0 will be removed
libkipi will be removed
libklinkstatuscommon4 will be removed
libkommandercore4 will be removed
libkommanderwidgets4 will be removed
libksane will be removed
libktorrent will be removed
libnepomukcore4 will be removed
libnepomuksync4 will be removed
nepomuk-core will be removed
nepomuk-core-devel will be removed
plasma-applet-cpuload will be removed
plasma-applet-daisy will be removed
plasma-applet-devicemanager will be removed
plasma-applet-eyasdp will be removed
plasma-applet-icontasks will be removed
plasma-applet-launchbutton will be removed
plasma-applet-onoff will be removed
plasma-applet-yasdp will be removed
plasma-applet-yawp will be removed
plasma-widget-menubar will be removed
polkit-kde-agent-1 will be removed
prison will be removed
prison-devel will be removed
pykde4 will be removed
smb4k will be removed
strigi-devel will be removed
task-kde4-help will be removed
wallpaper-theme-default will be removed

[sling-shot]

Looking at the number of posts we see here resulting from critical packages being removed by uninstallation of some thing user believes he does not need, can there be a solution for this?
- You mark a package for removal.
- When the question of actual removal comes it should ask the user if he would like to remove the specified package only or remove associated packages too?
- Alternatively may be add a 3rd right click option to Synaptic such as (a) Remove this package (b) Completely remove this package with associated files (c) Remove the package including associated packages
- Then we should get a prominent dialog showing the actual other packages being removed in an expanded state. (Presently they appear in a collapsed state which leads a person who does not know to just click Apply. Also even someone who knows might tend to forget to expand and see in a hurry)

[menotu]

It's possible to which packages are being upgraded/removed etc by selecting the Show Details option (prior to pressing the second "Apply" )

[agmg]

And on Summary, you can see the number of packages that are marked for removal.
A number of 150+ packages should ring some bells

[sling-shot]

- Then we should get a prominent dialog showing the actual other packages being removed in an expanded state. (Presently they appear in a collapsed state which leads a person who does not know to just click Apply. Also even someone who knows might tend to forget to expand and see when in a hurry)

[menotu]

And on Summary, you can see the number of packages that are marked for removal.
A number of 150+ packages should ring some bells

 

[muungwana]

And on Summary, you can see the number of packages that are marked for removal.
A number of 150+ packages should ring some bells

if some bells ring and nobody hear them,did they ring or not? 

[agmg]

And on Summary, you can see the number of packages that are marked for removal.
A number of 150+ packages should ring some bells

if some bells ring and nobody hear them,did they ring or not? 

The right question would be: if some bells ring and nobody hears them, should we blame the bells?

[Maurice]

Didn't hear any bells.

But that list is certainly an eye-opener. It's a wonder that anything is left.

In my defence - sortof - I should say that I use Minime and so there wouldn't have been quite that huge number. And I like to keep even Minime minimal. Grin

That said I shall certainly pay more attention next time I decide to uninstall anything.