MakeMKV (Notices of New Versions)

[Archie]

in base to the license and the type of app it is, it can't be added to repos from what i understand

or you compile it or you use alien for this one but seems to be simpler to just run the windows version in a virtual machine or with wine

Indeed, we cannot add the app on our repository and redistribute. The package requires an EULA {...ewww...puke...} ... but I'm still investigating.

[Archie]

OK. First, understand that the package will not be submitted and included in the official PCLinuxOS repository. This particular reply is not official PCLinuxOS but instead a personal consideration to an individual, a new member of the community. I've never used the software and I don't intend to. No support for this software will be allowed in the forum.

Disclaimer: PCLinuxOS and its packager(s) cannot be held responsible for any damages, corruption and/or loss in the download/installation/use of the software. I also reserve my right to remove the RPM for download at any time I choose, and whether to continue with an update or not.

Download here

Installation: First, install libmatroska2 from the repository. Navigate to the location of your download and open Konsole as root and type, rpm -Uvh makemkv-1.7.7-1_archie_2012.i586.rpm ... the menu entry should show up on KMenu > Video.

Screenshot:


Have fun!

[Just17]

Thanks Archie 

[Archie]

Thanks Archie 

Does it work? 

And I can always consider you the new member of our community.

[Just17]

Thanks Archie  

Does it work?  

And I can always consider you the new member of our community.

I don't have BD, but did try it with a DVD.

It ripped a 7.5GB DVD in about 12 mins.
Used the 4 cores of the CPU, but was light on resources.
It saved one .mkv file of the main title, without any menu.
It did not appear to provide any means for me to select other titles or menu etc if I wanted them. Those options might be there, but I did not see them on this first run.

It did no transcoding or altering of the MPEG-2 video. It just ripped it and saved it in a MKV wrapper.

The saved files was 7.2GB  It had 20 chapters for navigation.

It included subtitles which were enabled on playback .... disabled them in VLC quite easily ....  after I found where!    I now see where I might have excluded them on the rip.

It did the job with no fuss at all.

From my personal point of view I would use this very rarely .....  because I do not have BD facilities.

For DVD ripping there are other apps in the repos which would suit my use better.

For instance ....  I would prefer to rip to VOB and if needed later put a MKV or other wrapper on it, or use it to create a DVD without the 'extras' that come on most DVDs ......  but I would include a menu.

Nonetheless, if this behaves in a similar manner for BD discs, then it will be very useful to Linux users who have BD drives/media.

The only setting I recall changing was that for auto updates ....  I unticked it.


EDIT:      Not sure yet about the streaming function ....  some more testing to do .....


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BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

regards

[Archie]

BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

I don't feel comfortable with its EULA license. The license would not be displayed on the install because it was already part of the packaging. I just typed "yes". If Neal reads this thread and decides then that's where we'll bring this.

[Just17]

BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

I don't feel comfortable with its EULA license. The license would not be displayed on the install because it was already part of the packaging. I just typed "yes". If Neal reads this thread and decides then that's where we'll bring this.

Is it some content of the EULA or the fact that it has one, that makes you uncomfortable?

[Archie]

BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

I don't feel comfortable with its EULA license. The license would not be displayed on the install because it was already part of the packaging. I just typed "yes". If Neal reads this thread and decides then that's where we'll bring this.

Is it some content of the EULA or the fact that it has one, that makes you uncomfortable?

Just the fact that it has one. LOL

If it was GPL, BSD or even MIT, I would be good with it ... DONT! Yeah, I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these things... and someone told me once before that it's how we must package.

[Just17]

BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

I don't feel comfortable with its EULA license. The license would not be displayed on the install because it was already part of the packaging. I just typed "yes". If Neal reads this thread and decides then that's where we'll bring this.

Is it some content of the EULA or the fact that it has one, that makes you uncomfortable?

Just the fact that it has one. LOL

If it was GPL, BSD or even MIT, I would be good with it ... DONT! Yeah, I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these things... and someone told me once before that it's how we must package.

They are all licences.

I could understand if there is a problem with the content of a licence, but its very existence does not preclude it from inclusion.
If that were the case then all GPLicenced software would have to go!!   

[Archie]

BTW, it is my understanding that this is eligible for inclusion in the PCLOS repo.
The DVD functions are free and will remain so, as I understand it.
The BD functions require payment.
They allow repackaging and distribution in that form.

So, essentially I see nothing different there than having Nero Burning included in the repo .....  under non-free.

I don't feel comfortable with its EULA license. The license would not be displayed on the install because it was already part of the packaging. I just typed "yes". If Neal reads this thread and decides then that's where we'll bring this.

Is it some content of the EULA or the fact that it has one, that makes you uncomfortable?

Just the fact that it has one. LOL

If it was GPL, BSD or even MIT, I would be good with it ... DONT! Yeah, I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these things... and someone told me once before that it's how we must package.

They are all licences.

I could understand if there is a problem with the content of a licence, but its very existence does not preclude it from inclusion.
If that were the case then all GPLicenced software would have to go!!  

Well, I pretty much understand GPL and CCL and quite trust BSD and MIT but an EULA that I couldn't bother reading coupled with an expiry date on the app would just raise my paranoia level near the reds. I did not read the EULA simply because I have no intention of using the app but I still have to agree to whatever it was. I'll be a bit silly and try and locate the license.

[lhb1142]

Dear Archie,

First let me apologize for not replying sooner. I found your post which had the Download link and I downloaded the .rpm you created.

I then tried your command in the Konsole (under root) but it did not work (I had copied the .rpm to my Desktop and in the Konsole I entered cd/ Desktop and got there, but the command you gave failed).

So I went to my Downloads folder and I opened the original .rpm with the < rpm-installer > program (which I had previously found when casually looking through the programs offered in the Synaptic Package Manager [I do this from time to time]; this had looked like a very useful one so I installed it). That worked perfectly and the program was installed.

I have an LG Slim Blu-ray ReWriter BP40NS20 External USB 2.0 Silver Portable Writer Burner (http://www.amazon.com/LG-ReWriter-BP40NS20-External-Portable/dp/B0077QTOA2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346612195&sr=8-2&keywords=lg+bp06) which can read (and write) CDs (including the new M-Discs), DVDs, Blu-rays, and it even plays 3-D Blu-rays (play only).

I attached it to my computer and inserted a Blu-ray disc. I copied only the main feature and just the main sound track. The process took about 40 minutes and resulted in an MKV file of about 26.5 GB (the same size as what I copied).

As the computer on which I have PCLinuxOS (only; Windows Vista has been long-since 'wiped' off) installed is rather slow by current standards (it is an Acer Extensa 5620-6419, purchased in 2008), I cut and pasted the file to a 32 GB flash drive and then transferred it to my new computer (a ZaReason Strata 7330, i7-3720, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB hdd) and ran it through HandBrake. That process took something over one hour.

(I could have used the HandBrake installation on the PCLinxOS computer but the compression would have taken over six hours!  While MakeMKV works just as fast on the Acer as it does on the ZaReason, HandBrake is much slower.)

So I can tell you that the MakeMKV program, as you compiled it and I installed it, works 100% perfectly. The resultant video looks spectacular, just as the original Blu-ray does.

I can understand why you would exclude this program from support within this forum and let me say that this would present no problem, in itself, to me.

But now to the main problem: yes, the MakeMKV company, which makes Windows and Mac installations and also provides installations for GNU/Linux distributions, is evidently a commercial one. They do have a EULA. They probably will, sometime in the relatively near future, require money (though they do not now). And as new versions of the beta are released, you must reinstall the whole program; updating is not possible. To make matters worse, after the expiration of the time-limited version, the program will not work at all unless you do install the new version.

It's a 'pain.'

Now someone suggested here that it might be easier to run the program within Windows (using a dual-boot computer).

Let me say this:

I have had my fill of Windows.

I detest Windows.

I will not use Windows in any way, shape, or form.

I hope I have made myself clear.

I like PCLinuxOS. Other than this MakeMKV program, it has each and every program (audio & video) that I use - and they are all available from just one repository. In addition, PCLinuxOS is a rolling release distribution. I like both of those features.

Please understand: I am an older man who has never had any computer training whatsoever. I am completely self-taught. But I still have the capability of following directions.

I would not ask you or anyone else to compile an .rpm of this program just for me every time it is upgraded.

But, if you, or someone else, could clearly explain, step-by-step what I would have to do in order to compile an .rpm of this program myself for installation on the PCLinuxOS machine, I would be very appreciative.

There is no other program of its type available for Linux. (There is another such for Windows - DVDFab (http://www.dvdfab.com/) - but that one is costly and, as I said, no Windows for me!)

I want you to know that I appreciate very much the effort you made in helping me to get this latest version of MakeMKV installed. I hope that you will be able to help me to install future versions of it.

If that is not possible, I can still use MakeMKV on my ZaReason computer which has a GNU/Linux distro which uses Debian package management. But I would also like to be able to use it on machines which have Red Hat Package Management, such as PCLinuxOS.

And to anyone else reading this, MakeMKV is a fantastic program. It is, as I said, the only program available for Linux which will 'break' a Blu-ray and directly create an MKV (which can be further reduced in size using HandBrake).

While you can then use DeVeDe (an excellent program) to create a DVD from the uncompressed MKV file made from the Blu-ray, I no longer bother with discs. The wave of the future is to store all your movies and music on external hard drives. I keep my music on three (3) 1 TB hard drives (three - all containing the same things - ensures I won't lose anything) and I also keep my movies on three 1 TB hard drives (though I'll need larger ones in the future).

Doing this allows me to have over 200 movies (so far!), some SD, others HD, on an item that I can put in my pocket! And, as of today, I still have a bit over 500 GB space left on the drives which contain the movies!

Everybody here ought to at least consider doing this; then you can get rid of your old CDs and DVDs (or put them in the basement) and use the drives to watch movies or listen to music through compatible players. Any computer will do and if you have a Blu-ray player which will support MKV playback, you can use that in your TV or home theater setup.

I'm sorry for the length of this post (brevity not being one of my strong points), but I again thank you, Archie, very, very much for producing the .rpm of MakeMKV and I look forward to receiving instructions so that I will be able to do it myself in the future.

Lawrence H. Bulk

[Archie]

Hello Lawrence,

Your post is much appreciated. In my opinion, going through the trouble of setting up a build environment just for one package is not worth all that trouble. Leave it to the packagers to handle your need for such packages. Honestly, I won't mind doing it even if it is just you who would use it ... although I am pretty sure there are other users who would be interested in this app. The only thing is I won't be able to monitor the updates so you will be the eyes and ears for this.

Let me know when another update is released and I will gladly package it.

Peace and much respect,
Archie

[lhb1142]

Hello Lawrence,

Your post is much appreciated. In my opinion, going through the trouble of setting up a build environment just for one package is not worth all that trouble. Leave it to the packagers to handle your need for such packages. Honestly, I won't mind doing it even if it is just you who would use it ... although I am pretty sure there are other users who would be interested in this app. The only thing is I won't be able to monitor the updates so you will be the eyes and ears for this.

Let me know when another update is released and I will gladly package it.

Peace and much respect,
Archie

Dear Archie,

Thank you very much both for creating the .rpm and for your offer to create further packages.

I tried to access MakeMKV's site today < www.makemkv.com/ > but all that comes up is "This Account Has Been Suspended."

I do not know the reason for this suspension nor, apparently, does anyone else (I 'Googled" the problem and read every item concerning this).

I hope that this is not a "government takedown" but rather something simple, such as being late with a payment for hosting the site.

I hope that this site is back up quickly. I do not know if you (or anyone else) really tried this program but, take my word for it, it is fantastic. In the meantime I suggest that anyone else interested download the package you made and install it. It will work for at least one month. I do not know if there is a way to 'hack' the program such that it will work indefinitely. Of course, even if there were, new Blu-ray "copy protection" algorithms will be introduced which will confound the current version.

I'll check the site every day and I'll post any further findings here. And of course if there are new versions issued, I'll post that here too.

Again, thank you very much.

Lawrence

P.S. Is there some web site which will explain to me how to make a package myself, something simple and showing the process completely step-by-step?

[Archie]

P.S. Is there some web site which will explain to me how to make a package myself, something simple and showing the process completely step-by-step?

You can start at the Packagers section of our forum. There are some very useful info on setting up your own build environment and some examples as well.

[rich2005]

It has probably been stamped on by the evil_suny_corp or something like that, it has happened in the past with DVD backup applications.

FWIW the source seems to be still available at

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MakeMKV

look in old vesions link