Two Pclos installed but only one shows in Start menu

[Maurice]

Gentlemen - I'm prepared to throw in the towel on this one. On reflection I can't see why I need two of the same operating system on one machine and can't justify all the effort you are all putting into this.

I'd like to thank you for your help, especially for the clear way you explain how to follow your instructions. I learn a lot even if the problem isn't solved and I appreciate it very much.

Many thanks.
Maurice

[Old-Polack]

Gentlemen - I'm prepared to throw in the towel on this one. On reflection I can't see why I need two of the same operating system on one machine and can't justify all the effort you are all putting into this.

I'd like to thank you for your help, especially for the clear way you explain how to follow your instructions. I learn a lot even if the problem isn't solved and I appreciate it very much.

Many thanks.
Maurice

It could well be that either the kernel, initrd image, or the menu.lst of the older installation has become corrupted. You could run an fsck -fy /dev/sda5 command, as root, from a liveCD, with that partition unmounted, to see if that would fix the problem.

If it doesn't, we can try to examine the partition from the new installation by mounting it somewhere, then inspecting the contents of its /boot and /boot/grub directories, to see if we can spot any clues as to why it no longer boots. Possibly a new kernel installation, from a chroot environment is needed to fix the problem. I've had to do that before, and the results were positive. We still have options, so we're not at a dead end yet. 

[Maurice]

It could well be that either the kernel, initrd image, or the menu.lst of the older installation has become corrupted. You could run an fsck -fy /dev/sda5 command, as root, from a liveCD, with that partition unmounted, to see if that would fix the problem.

If it doesn't, we can try to examine the partition from the new installation by mounting it somewhere, then inspecting the contents of its /boot and /boot/grub directories, to see if we can spot any clues as to why it no longer boots. Possibly a new kernel installation, from a chroot environment is needed to fix the problem. I've had to do that before, and the results were positive. We still have options, so we're not at a dead end yet. 

Didn't you read my last post O-P.

Did fsck -fy /dev/sda5. On rebooting I got --  "root (hd0,3). FS type unknown, partition type 0x5, Chainloader +1."

[Old-Polack]

It could well be that either the kernel, initrd image, or the menu.lst of the older installation has become corrupted. You could run an fsck -fy /dev/sda5 command, as root, from a liveCD, with that partition unmounted, to see if that would fix the problem.

If it doesn't, we can try to examine the partition from the new installation by mounting it somewhere, then inspecting the contents of its /boot and /boot/grub directories, to see if we can spot any clues as to why it no longer boots. Possibly a new kernel installation, from a chroot environment is needed to fix the problem. I've had to do that before, and the results were positive. We still have options, so we're not at a dead end yet. 

Didn't you read my last post O-P.

Did fsck -fy /dev/sda5. On rebooting I got --  "root (hd0,3). FS type unknown, partition type 0x5, Chainloader +1."

The (hd0,3) is /dev/sda4 which is the extended partition, the container for the logical partitions, and as such has no filesystem of its own, so there is nothing to run an fsck against, and it cannot be a root partition for the same reason.

The command I wrote also contains a typo, as it should have been fsck -fy /dev/sda6. As originally written, it would have done the fsck on the MiniMe partition, which is the one that is already working as it should.

[tele]

Is not there an easier way? for PCLinuxOS ?
There are several ways to add a second system for grub2 in Linux
1) Repair and adding a new system from a CD or flash drive (pendrive)
a) Typing the command (in the terminal)
b) Using the grub manager in system from CD or flash drive
c) Using other graphics programs

2) In the system
a) Manually edit fstab/menu.lst
b) Using the grub manager in system
c) Using other graphics programs to edit grub

Maybe it's the manager or graphic program option?
I have Installed systems in different partitions,
I try to feed of grub was always the same partition as the system.
Just wanting to ask if there's a program that will automatically search for other systems, and add to the grub?

[Maurice]

O-P. ------- A sorry update 

Yesterday I repartitioned my hard drive - back to 4 primary partitions. I then got a "No bootable device found...." so had to spend some time trying to fixing this. I then had to install Minime three times before I got a good install. Now I am having to battle with Firefox which is refusing to make bookmarks.

But this post is mainly to thank you for your help and persistence in this thread. I look forward to jousting with you again the next time I'm in dire need.

[Archie]

Sorry to hear you got to reinstall, Maurice ...

And this here is a post to wish you good luck.

[Old-Polack]

O-P. ------- A sorry update 

Yesterday I repartitioned my hard drive - back to 4 primary partitions. I then got a "No bootable device found...." so had to spend some time trying to fixing this. I then had to install Minime three times before I got a good install. Now I am having to battle with Firefox which is refusing to make bookmarks.

But this post is mainly to thank you for your help and persistence in this thread. I look forward to jousting with you again the next time I'm in dire need.

Sorry to hear about the current problems. I've installed both, the new MiniMe and the full KDE release. Both installed effortlessly on my hardware, and I've had no problems with adding applications to MiniMe, or configuring them after the installation.

Did you do an md5sum check on the d/l image, and again on the burned disk?

[Maurice]

Sorry to hear you got to reinstall, Maurice ...

And this here is a post to wish you good luck.

Thanks Archie

[Maurice]

Sorry to hear about the current problems. I've installed both, the new MiniMe and the full KDE release. Both installed effortlessly on my hardware, and I've had no problems with adding applications to MiniMe, or configuring them after the installation.

Did you do an md5sum check on the d/l image, and again on the burned disk?

Yes - I always do. But now I'm beginning to wonder.... apart from Firefox not saving bookmarks, I'm getting the oddest problems...

The arrow doesn't change shape when I click on a link.
When I do a google search the links are black and not the usual blue.
Thunderbird suddenly refused to open and wanted a profile which it wouldn't accept. So I had to reinstall.
I downloaded Chromium and it would not open either via its icon, the run command or a terminal.
Plus a few others I have forgotten -

So I'm about to download and reinstall Minime. I've downloaded the full kde but run out of dvds.

[Maurice]

Finally managed a good Minime install.  .

My first attempt failed with a "Could not copy files" error towards the end. The next one wanted an XDM package but installed anyway. And now Firefox works properly and all the other little niggles are gone. I have replaced my /.mozilla and /.thunderbird files which I had backed up and am now on the pleasant task of adding applications.

So - SOLVED - albeit in my usual way of wiping and reinstalling.

Thanks to all who helped. It was much appreciated

Maurice