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Offline DisappearingOak

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Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« on: August 22, 2012, 02:05:29 PM »
I have a request to the PCLOS packagers - please package a newer version of e17 if possible. The one currently in the repos, I've installed that but it's a very old version and has bugs in a few places and is incompatible with many of the themes - for example the volume button does not work properly if you drag it from the right side, etc. and is missing a few features also. And bodhi linux distro already has the new Terminology software also,  :'( but their distro sucks though.

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 03:56:02 PM »
I'm also a big fan of E17 and would like to see a newer version.    One option, while your waiting, is to compile your own from the e17 svn after installing say a basic PCLOS desktop,   I've been doing this for some time and have the advantage of PCLOS with an up to date enlightenment desktop.   Very fast on my old laptop.  I've not had a problem so far  but clearly this is a non standard system and would not get support from the forum and I have it on it's own partition so if it fails,  I can boot from another partition.   I update it about once a week (about 20 mins from a script).  If you go down this route there are various scripts which automate the process.  The hardest part at the beginning is installing all the required libraries to get it to compile,  I'm not an expert and have learnt a lot.  If you get it going once then it's very easy to update.   I think there are a lot of other e17  PCLOS fans out there,  so once they finish kde there's hope.


 

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2012, 02:45:56 PM »
I'm also a big fan of E17 and would like to see a newer version.    One option, while your waiting, is to compile your own from the e17 svn after installing say a basic PCLOS desktop,   I've been doing this for some time and have the advantage of PCLOS with an up to date enlightenment desktop.   Very fast on my old laptop.  I've not had a problem so far  but clearly this is a non standard system and would not get support from the forum and I have it on it's own partition so if it fails,  I can boot from another partition.   I update it about once a week (about 20 mins from a script).  If you go down this route there are various scripts which automate the process.  The hardest part at the beginning is installing all the required libraries to get it to compile,  I'm not an expert and have learnt a lot.  If you get it going once then it's very easy to update.   I think there are a lot of other e17  PCLOS fans out there,  so once they finish kde there's hope.

Maybe you can even try yourself to package enlightenment for PCLinuxOS... the previous SRPMs are available (as far as I know), and there is some information about packaging for PCLinuxOS on this forum (and also on the knowledge base I think)....
=> if you don't like to do it / don't want to try (insufficient time, other interests, ....), that's OK too of course..... but I just want to mention that this is a community distribution, so everyone may and can help  ;)
If the last thing is the case, please have some patience  :)

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2012, 08:44:26 AM »
Thanks for suggestion, I'll have a look at what's involved, when I get back from holiday next week.

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 06:44:25 PM »
Thanks for suggestion, I'll have a look at what's involved, when I get back from holiday next week.

I'm rooting for you jb99! I too am a huge e17 fan and would love to see it updated on PCLOS. Thanks ever so much for getting involved (if you can), and welcome to the forum.




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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 06:08:27 PM »
I'm also a big fan of E17 and would like to see a newer version.    One option, while your waiting, is to compile your own from the e17 svn after installing say a basic PCLOS desktop,   I've been doing this for some time and have the advantage of PCLOS with an up to date enlightenment desktop.   Very fast on my old laptop.  I've not had a problem so far  but clearly this is a non standard system and would not get support from the forum and I have it on it's own partition so if it fails,  I can boot from another partition.   I update it about once a week (about 20 mins from a script).  If you go down this route there are various scripts which automate the process.  The hardest part at the beginning is installing all the required libraries to get it to compile,  I'm not an expert and have learnt a lot.  If you get it going once then it's very easy to update.   I think there are a lot of other e17  PCLOS fans out there,  so once they finish kde there's hope.



Hey,

  Do you remember the libraries you installed to get it to compile?  I've done it on .deb based distros but it's been a while and PCLinuxOS is a different bird entirely.  Thanks!
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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2012, 05:10:07 PM »
Hi rpmTECH ,
I had a look through my history on synaptic,  but can't work out which library packages were part of e17. I started from a very bare pclinuxos  (which was available last year ) so had to install everything.  
 However if you go to http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Installation this was my start point and gives a list of requirements.  I tried to match these to pclinuxos and installed as many as possible.   I then downloaded the latest svn and tried to compile the first module eina.   To do this I opened a terminal changed to the eina dir and  tried :-
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$ ./autogen.sh
$ make
$ make install && ldconfig (as root)
I then googled any errors and loaded any missing library packages.   The modules have to be compiled in the right order so I worked my way through one at a time fixing errors until I got the whole lot going.   Hope that helps
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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2012, 09:52:44 PM »
Hi tuxalish ,
I had a look through my history on synaptic,  but can't work out which library packages were part of e17. I started from a very bare pclinuxos  (which was available last year ) so had to install everything.  
 However if you go to http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Installation this was my start point and gives a list of requirements.  I tried to match these to pclinuxos and installed as many as possible.   I then downloaded the latest svn and tried to compile the first module eina.   To do this I opened a terminal changed to the eina dir and  tried :-
Code: [Select]
$ ./autogen.sh
$ make
$ make install && ldconfig (as root)
I then googled any errors and loaded any missing library packages.   The modules have to be compiled in the right order so I worked my way through one at a time fixing errors until I got the whole lot going.   Hope that helps


jb99, I think this reply was meant for rpmTECH, (definitely not me :D) I hope he or she is following this thread. Maybe the two of you together can work this out and give us e17 on PCLOS fanatics a new and improved Enlightenment DE. Thanks for taking this on.

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2012, 02:59:16 AM »
Apologies  Tuxalish I've changed my reply to rpmTECH

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2012, 11:23:16 PM »
e17 final release is planned before the end of the year, the exact date will be made public on Linuxcon in Madrid 05/11/2012.
Meanwhile you can follow cleared bugs and added features in the e17 releasemanager's blog: http://e17releasemanager.wordpress.com/

Would love to see a recent e17 build in the pclinuxos repo but i understand the packagers don't have the time for it (meanwhile using bodhi for e17 in dualboot with pclinuxos kde :o )
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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2012, 07:54:48 PM »
I'm still using the last official PCLOS e17 release. It is working fine, after a few update hiccups here and there. 

I also have the other distro mentioned, and I think it works fine as well.

And here is one more vote for the wonderful volunteer developers to put  an e17 release on the agenda for down the road....

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2012, 02:22:50 AM »
I tried the new KDE2012 pclinuxos, and installed E17, then did the full update,
and to use E17 as default, there is a file in /home/username,
.desktop
containing the text,   KDE
that I had to edit to read  E17  then reboot to a nice E17 linux.
I enjoy using k3b, konqueror, dolphin, and konsole, in an easy and attractive
environment.  I have the oft used app icons on a transparent ibar task bar,
in the order I choose, icons edited to compliment the hues of the
photo wallpaper and theme.

Packaging kde for rolling release, and E17 for a solid installation,
must be a daunting task, but apparently its a success.  8)

dpup exprimo is another E17 based puppy linux, a joy to use from cd or usbstick.
Fast and stable, with plenty under the hood, and even smaller than the
excellent bodhi.
The E team is surely spoiled with riches :D

Offline simpletech9

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 09:49:18 PM »
since i am a newbee at this i will give it a little bit more reading before i start to cry ...lol but i wanted to use one of the lighter versions then install e17 on it but oh well one step at a time

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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2012, 10:54:02 AM »
I did make some e17 rpm's though, I don't really know packaging, and obviously not official pclinuxos pkgs, so not really useable for others, they worked for me though, but their old now, I did this back in May this year.

Update:
More home made e rpms today, though could not get eeze to build on pclinux,  (though same eeze.spec file worked fine on another distro).
It looks like the latest e svn download is not very friendly with extra modules, and gives a warning when trying to install any, some may work others cause problems, but I have enlightenment version 78191 on my pclinux install from  last May.
(On reflection, better option would have been to use last snapshot which is very recent).
I at 1st tried updating, but after building an installing e17 had problems, ie: no gdm e17 session showing, 2nd attempt reinstalled then built e, I have not tried updating I suspect doing so will remove my new e rpms, but now I have them built I may install a newer mini kde pclinux and install the e17 rpms, and see how that goes.
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Re: Please bring in a newer E17 version...
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 04:02:22 PM »
only human are they stable???
and i think i saw some one mention the bohdi/buntu ...yea i tried it and it crashed never had too much luck with the buntus so ..........i am on the pclinuxos kde version but was thinking of using the phoenix edition then put e17 on it........