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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #15 on: August 27, 2012, 07:36:41 PM »
Thanks, Old-Polack, I tried to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on my working version of PCLinux by using the vim command, "vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
This is what I got.

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 247269)

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"
    #DontZap # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
    #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Disable "dri"
    Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load "extmod"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection
"/etc/X11/xorg.conf" [readonly] 98L, 2628C                    1,1           Top

I don't know what to edit??!!


I wouldn't edit anything if it is working properly now. From my 2009 installation, this is more typical of what you would find;

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# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeister@builder75)  Tue Jul 13 21:08:53 PDT 2010

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 242880)
# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "layout1"
    Screen         "screen1" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
    Load           "v4l" # Video for Linux
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

    #DontZap # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
 # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
    Option         "allowmouseopenfail"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Keyboard1"
    Driver         "kbd"
    Option         "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option         "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Mouse1"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    Identifier     "monitor1"
    VendorName     "Plug'n Play"
    ModelName      "SAMSUNG"
    HorizSync       30.0 - 71.0
    VertRefresh     50.0 - 160.0
    ModeLine       "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
    ModeLine       "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "device1"
    Driver         "nvidia"                                                <--- This would be the line to edit
    VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName      "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 and later"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "screen1"
    Device         "device1"
    Monitor        "monitor1"
    DefaultDepth    16
    Option         "DPMS" "false"
    Option         "DynamicTwinView" "true"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       8
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       15
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite"
EndSection


From the my 32 bit KDE4 installation;

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# File generated by XFdrake (rev 262502)

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "DontZap" "False" # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Samsung"
    ModelName "Samsung SyncMaster 790DF"
    HorizSync 30-71
    VertRefresh 50-160
    Option "PreferredMode" "1280x1024"
    
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630
    
    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360"
    Driver "nvidia"                                                       <--- This would be the line to edit.
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "true"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection


And from my 64 bit installation;

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# File generated by XFdrake (rev 262502)

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the xorg.conf man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "DontZap" "False" # disable <Ctrl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
    #DontZoom # disable <Ctrl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
    AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier "monitor1"
    VendorName "Samsung"
    ModelName "Samsung SyncMaster 790DF"
    HorizSync 30-71
    VertRefresh 50-160
    
    # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
    # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     50.00  768  832  846 1000   576  590  595  630
    
    # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
    ModeLine "768x576"     63.07  768  800  960 1024   576  578  590  616
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360"
    Driver "nvidia"                                                         <--- This would be the line to edit.
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "screen1"
    Device "device1"
    Monitor "monitor1"
    DefaultColorDepth 24
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 8
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 15
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 16
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
    
    Subsection "Display"
        Depth 24
        Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
    EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout1"
    Screen "screen1"
EndSection


Note the basic similarity of all of the above. The last two are set for dual monitors which is what the TwinView refers to, even though I haven't actually added the second monitor yet. What you would see on the liveCD would most closely resemble the first example, with minor differences. The only thing you would need to edit would be the Driver  "nvivia" line, to read Driver "nv".
« Last Edit: August 27, 2012, 07:39:38 PM by Old-Polack »
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 10:46:49 AM »
I used vim to edit "nvidia" to "nv" and exited using :wq.  I ran vim again in "guest" mode to see if the change had occurred and it had.  I then rebooted and got the same message I got at first, so I ran vim again in the "guest" mode and got a whole column of blue ~ and at the bottom it had this line:

"/etc/X11/xorg.conf [New File]                                    0,0-1                        All

I couldn't move the cursor, so I couldn't do anything.

I really appreciate all your help!

Thanks!
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2012, 12:06:14 PM »
I used vim to edit "nvidia" to "nv" and exited using :wq.  I ran vim again in "guest" mode to see if the change had occurred and it had.  I then rebooted and got the same message I got at first, so I ran vim again in the "guest" mode and got a whole column of blue ~ and at the bottom it had this line:

"/etc/X11/xorg.conf [New File]                                    0,0-1                        All

I couldn't move the cursor, so I couldn't do anything.

I really appreciate all your help!

Thanks!

You didn't actually say, but I'll assume you did the edit as root, because you didn't report any error message when you saved the file.

When you want to check a text file's content, without making changes to it, use the cat command.

You are using a liveCD, so all actions occur in memory alone. If you reboot, the changes you made with vim are gone. You cannot edit a system file as anyone other than root, or it won't be able to be saved.

When you reboot to the liveCD, at the prompt, log in as root, use vim to make the edit to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, save and exit vim with :wq, issue the startx command. If the mv driver is going to work with your graphics, you should then see root's GUI desktop. You can log out and back in as guest, if you are more comfortable with that, or you can proceed to run the installation program from there. What you can't do is reboot, or you'll have to repeat the whole process again.

If, for whatever reason, the nv driver does not work, and X won't start, use vim to again edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so the edited line reads;

Driver "vesa"

...save the file with :wq and try startx again.
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2012, 07:44:49 PM »
OK, from the LiveCD, I logged in as Root and ran vim to edit /etc/X11.xorg.conf.  I then changed the driver from "nvidia" to "nv", exited with :wq and ran startx.  This is what I got:

Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
    Before reporting problems, etc, etc
Markers:  All the different markers are shown here
(==) Log file: "var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Aug 28 20:37:13 2012
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11.xorg.conf.d"
acpid: client 3667[0:0] has disconnected
acpid: client connected from 3696[0:0]
acpid: 1 client rule loaded
(EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0172 (GeForce MX 420) at 01000:00:0 has a kernel module claiming it.
(EE) NV: No devices detected

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the X.org Foundation, etc, etc.
Please also check the log file etc, etc.

xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

I then went back and edited nv to vesa and got the same except for these lines

acpid: client 3642[0:0] has disconnected
acpid: client connected from 3667[0:0]
acpid: 1 client rule loaded

Refusing to touch device with a bound kernel driver
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

I'm pretty sure I did everything right.
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2012, 08:15:34 PM »
OK, from the LiveCD, I logged in as Root and ran vim to edit /etc/X11.xorg.conf.  I then changed the driver from "nvidia" to "nv", exited with :wq and ran startx.  This is what I got:

Current version of pixman: 0.24.4
    Before reporting problems, etc, etc
Markers:  All the different markers are shown here
(==) Log file: "var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Aug 28 20:37:13 2012
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11.xorg.conf.d"
acpid: client 3667[0:0] has disconnected
acpid: client connected from 3696[0:0]
acpid: 1 client rule loaded
(EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0172 (GeForce MX 420) at 01000:00:0 has a kernel module claiming it.
(EE) NV: No devices detected

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the X.org Foundation, etc, etc.
Please also check the log file etc, etc.

xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
xinit: server error

I then went back and edited nv to vesa and got the same except for these lines

acpid: client 3642[0:0] has disconnected
acpid: client connected from 3667[0:0]
acpid: 1 client rule loaded

Refusing to touch device with a bound kernel driver
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

I'm pretty sure I did everything right.

You are doing fine. To eliminate the error;

(EE) NV: The PCI device 0x10de0172 (GeForce MX 420) at 01000:00:0 has a kernel module claiming it.

... we need to add an additional two commands before doing the edit to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Log in as root, just as before, then enter this command;

[root@localhost ~]# init 3                         <Enter>

This should shut down the X server, and should release the nvidia driver. To be sure, we enter the second command;

[root@localhost ~]# rmmod nvidia                            <Enter>

If the nvidia driver has been released, as it should, it will be removed as a loaded driver, and you will be returned to the prompt without any messages. If is has not been released, you will get the error;

ERROR: Module nvidia is in use

You can also do an additional command to further check;

[root@localhost ~]# lsmod |grep nvidia                        <Enter>

If the nvidia driver has truly been removed, again you will simply be returned to the prompt.

From this point, use vim to make the edit to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, changing nvidia to nv, save the file with :wq, then issue the startx command.

With no other driver claiming the video card, the nv driver should load properly, and if it works with your card you'll get the root GUI desktop.

If you get another error, post that exact error in your next reply.
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2012, 08:51:14 PM »
Batzilla,

If you don't want to upgrade your video card, try the following:

When you first install, choose the boot using fbdev (framebuffer) option. Before restarting the fresh, incomplete install, go into PCC, set up your video card, choose NO when asked if you want to use the driver that may provide more options. Next configure your boot options. Modify the boot options line by including the NOKMSBOOT option. Close down PCC. Reboot. VOILA! Totally functional graphical desktop.

Hope you found this helpful.


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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2012, 07:13:14 AM »
Thanks for sticking with me, Old-Polack.  I did as you said and ran init 3.  This is what I got:

[Root@localhost ~]# init 3       
INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3
[Root@localhost ~]# Stopping display manager:                   [  OK  ]
Starting irqbalance:                                                         [  OK  ]
Waiting for network to be up                                             [  OK  ]
Starting VirtualBox kernel modules                                      [  OK  ]
_

I watched the blinking cursor for 15 minutes and nothing.  Thought I'd better get back to you.

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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2012, 10:27:18 AM »
Thanks for sticking with me, Old-Polack.  I did as you said and ran init 3.  This is what I got:

[Root@localhost ~]# init 3       
INIT: Switching to runlevel: 3
[Root@localhost ~]# Stopping display manager:                   [  OK  ]
Starting irqbalance:                                                         [  OK  ]
Waiting for network to be up                                             [  OK  ]
Starting VirtualBox kernel modules                                      [  OK  ]
_

I watched the blinking cursor for 15 minutes and nothing.  Thought I'd better get back to you.

Batzilla

It often hangs at that point. (like almost always) Press the Enter key and the root prompt should return. It's become so automatic with me to do that, I forget to mention it. Sorry about that.
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2012, 05:24:22 PM »
KEEP THIS POST IN RESERVE ONLY

Here's my idea again.

But i went to the computer store and spent five dollars
for one or two 8 GB flash drives on sale anywhere in the
Sunday paper. 

Then installed the most current KDE iso to the flash drive
as if it was a hard drive installation. 

/boot/grub/menu.lst confirms on the flash drive that hd0.0
will be booted when pressing esc or F12, otherwise change it,
hd0,0 on the boot info  line, I mean,  that's the key to the flash drive.

OK, reboot, press esc or F12,  choose your new flash drive, let it do it

Then go into safe mode, install  do-vesa from Synaptic,
and run enter do-vesa as root in terminal and reboot,
do not go into safe mode after reboot

you should have something worth looking at then that will
stay between reboots.

I've done this 100 times, hope I haven't skipped any explanation.
But it will cost you $5 for a 8b GB flash drive on sale

Keep this idea in reserve  if you and OP aren't clicking up to a fast solution.

regards

FF

p.s.  then we can be assured the install to your permanent HD
can be done, if this experience is successful, an open partition
on your main HD.  Don't experiment with your main HD until you're
confident with what's going on here. The flash drive installation
can be archived and put on your main HD after adjustments for
video drivers or anything else at a later date.   Please be careful not to wreck
your present HD install until you're confident you can do above.

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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2012, 06:24:55 PM »
Bingo!!!!! Old-Polack, I can finally see a GUI desktop!  I only have one more small problem.  While I was checking everything to see if would work, when I tried to go online with FireFox, it tried to load and then I got a black screen with the little green check mark in the upper left hand corner to tell me my wired ethernet was working, but it wouldn't let me do anything and FireFox never loaded.  I didn't know how to get back to the desk top, so I pressed Ctl-Alt-Del and rebooted.  Went through all the stuff to get me booted back up and tried again.  This time I tried Konqueror to see if it would work.  With it I got the PCLinuxOS home page to come up and start loading, but then it did the same thing.  Any ideas?

Thanks again.  We're going to beat this thing!?

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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2012, 08:31:55 PM »
Bingo!!!!! Old-Polack, I can finally see a GUI desktop!  I only have one more small problem.  While I was checking everything to see if would work, when I tried to go online with FireFox, it tried to load and then I got a black screen with the little green check mark in the upper left hand corner to tell me my wired ethernet was working, but it wouldn't let me do anything and FireFox never loaded.  I didn't know how to get back to the desk top, so I pressed Ctl-Alt-Del and rebooted.  Went through all the stuff to get me booted back up and tried again.  This time I tried Konqueror to see if it would work.  With it I got the PCLinuxOS home page to come up and start loading, but then it did the same thing.  Any ideas?

Thanks again.  We're going to beat this thing!?

Batzilla

Have you tried the same thing but editing /etc/X11/xorg,conf to change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "vesa"?

Knowing that you can get a GUI desktop, when logged in as root doing the usual routine, instead of the startx command, try this;

[root@localhost ~]# init 5 && exit                         <Enter>

Instead of just going to root's desktop, this should bring you to the GUI login screen, where you can then log in as user guest, with password guest, so you will be running as a normal user instead of root.

Are we having fun yet? Nothing like using a problem as an opportunity to learn some new things that will have long lasting benefits.  ;D
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2012, 08:26:43 AM »
OK, here's what we have.

I changed the driver on the LiveDVD to "vn" and ran "init 5 && exit" to see what would happen.  Everything seemed to be going fine until the desktop started loading.  I got five icons at the bottom and it locked up before it loaded anything else.  I had to shut off the computer manually.

Then I rebooted, changed "nvidia" to "vesa" and used "startx".  Again, everything seemed to be doing well, and I got to the desktop.  I waited for a good while for the DVD drive to stop working (I assumed it would stop when everything was loaded), but it did'n't.  So, I decided to click on the install help icon to get familiar with it.  It came up (but slo-o-owly).

When I finished looking at it and quit, I got the black screen again with the green check mark in the upper left hand corner of the screen and couldn't do anything esle.

Then I rebooted again and changed "nvidia" to "vesa" and ran "init 5 && exit".  Again I got through some of the desktop and it locked up again.  Had to shut down manually.  Both times when I used "init 5 && exit" instead of getting a login screen, I got a window for me to select the Keyboard type, then went directly into the desktop, where it got locked up.

I'm definitely having fun, but I sure wish this thing would work.  >:(

Thanks again!
Batzilla
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2012, 09:02:46 AM »
OK, here's what we have.

I changed the driver on the LiveDVD to "vn" and ran "init 5 && exit" to see what would happen.  Everything seemed to be going fine until the desktop started loading.  I got five icons at the bottom and it locked up before it loaded anything else.  I had to shut off the computer manually.

Then I rebooted, changed "nvidia" to "vesa" and used "startx".  Again, everything seemed to be doing well, and I got to the desktop.  I waited for a good while for the DVD drive to stop working (I assumed it would stop when everything was loaded), but it did'n't.  So, I decided to click on the install help icon to get familiar with it.  It came up (but slo-o-owly).

When I finished looking at it and quit, I got the black screen again with the green check mark in the upper left hand corner of the screen and couldn't do anything esle.

Then I rebooted again and changed "nvidia" to "vesa" and ran "init 5 && exit".  Again I got through some of the desktop and it locked up again.  Had to shut down manually.  Both times when I used "init 5 && exit" instead of getting a login screen, I got a window for me to select the Keyboard type, then went directly into the desktop, where it got locked up.

I'm definitely having fun, but I sure wish this thing would work.  >:(

Thanks again!
Batzilla


Are you using an actual burned DVD, or a USB stick, as in liveUSB? Did you do a md5sum check of the d/l image? If using a burned DVD, did you do a md5sum check on the burned disk?

I ask the above because this looks like there's more involved than just the video driver and the graphics card/GPU involved.

Have you tried the live media in another computer? Basically I'm trying to isolate whether the problem is with the specific hardware, or possibly with the live media itself, or a combination of both. If the media works properly with other hardware, at least that eliminates it as a problem source.
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2012, 09:37:29 AM »
I'm really sorry Old-Polack, but I don't even know what an md5sum check is!  I did a Media Check during trying to boot and it said it was good.  Is md5sum different than Media Check?
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Re: PCLinuxOS 2012 liveCD won't boot
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2012, 12:00:36 PM »
I forgot to mention that when I rebooted into my working OS I ended up with no desktop.  I get the tool bar at the bottom, but a black screen.  I've tried the desk top icon on the tool bar, but it doesn't do anything.
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PCLinuxOS 2012.08-KDE
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