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No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade(Answered)
« on: August 15, 2012, 06:18:35 PM »
Just thought I'd post this in hopes that someone has an answer. Synaptic shows that they are installed but when trying to use them nothing appears in the preview area.
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 10:26:16 PM »
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=97102&start=60&hilit=xscreensaver

btw, you can still use xscreensaver just not interfacing with KDE. Try out the commands:

$ xscreensaver-demo

but while on KDE, quite a bit of those listed might not actually work.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2012, 10:29:48 PM by Archie »
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 10:29:16 PM »
i'm in the 53% of kde users  :D
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 07:29:32 PM »
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=97102&start=60&hilit=xscreensaver

btw, you can still use xscreensaver just not interfacing with KDE. Try out the commands:

$ xscreensaver-demo

but while on KDE, quite a bit of those listed might not actually work.


Is this just a demo?  Or can you use it as you would through KDE?  What would be the proper way to set it up?

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 10:49:45 PM »
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=97102&start=60&hilit=xscreensaver

btw, you can still use xscreensaver just not interfacing with KDE. Try out the commands:

$ xscreensaver-demo

but while on KDE, quite a bit of those listed might not actually work.


Is this just a demo?  Or can you use it as you would through KDE?  What would be the proper way to set it up?

Thanks,
MCP


I'm not sure but since it is a program that can run independently from a plasma desktop, creating its own display, I should think you could.

It's been a long while since I used xscreensaver ... but first you need to start the daemon. Then you could setup your preferences - how long before it blanks, what module to use, etc. Then add a simple script on autostart to ... xscreensaver-command --activate (if I am not mistaken, but please do check the --help). Good luck ... and please post for other users your success and methods.

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 01:24:42 AM »
Are They Freaking Nuts!!!! You ,The 53% who don't care, are the equivalent of vocal minority, the squeaky wheel!!!

Holy crap what is it with the new protocols that gotta have a bunch of new eye candy that requires huge resources and make the Operating system kinda bloated. paraphrasing Linus. But want to take away stuff that doesn't as much resources in comparison. I waited until to upgrade to KDE4 until 4.6 only after all the bugs cough cough were worked out/

Now when I go thru all the trouble to update which was not as bad as going from 2007 to 2009, and I find out the screen savers are gone. thought it was a mistake a glitch.  Now I find out its not. what the Bloody blue Blazes are they reaching at.

Here is the deal.  I am going to school and I use my Notebook which is 15'4 screen I frequently leave mine open and they see quasi-Pacman screen saver doing his thing. and there you go instant advertisement for this Distro people are in interested it and want to now more.  And there were options.

OK Rant Over!! for now here is my question.

Is there a way to get the screen saver to work normally? and by normal I want to screen saver to work like it did before . I want the entire screen not just the top part or more precisely not letting the  tool bar

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 03:54:09 AM »
Xscreensaver to working normally? I am quite happy without it. Xscreensaver waste unnecessary CPU cycles. I'd rather just use the Lock Screen. But yes, there is a way. Follow the instructions explicitly.

(A) You should at minimum have the following installed:
  • xscreensaver
  • xscreensaver-base
  • xscreensaver-common

(B) Open Konsole and type,
Code: [Select]
[user@localhost ~] $ xscreensaver-demo
When Warning: The XscreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0". Launch it now? Click OK.

On the Display Modes tab, set your preferences accordingly. Do the same with the Advanced tab (if you have anything to set). Once done, select File > Quit.

(C) Test your xscreensaver module selection with the following command:
Code: [Select]
[user@localhost ~] $ xscreensaver-command --activate
Xscreensaver should display your selected module

(D) Still on the konsole, type,
Code: [Select]
[user@localhost ~] $  xset s on
This should be OK for your session and launch xscreensaver on its designated timeout ... but when you shutdown and bootup, you will need to restart the daemon, etc. again. To make it permanent, do the following:

First,  repeat the instructions on (B).

You should also disable KDE screensaver if you have it turned on. Open SystemSettings > Hardware > Display and Monitor > Screen Saver. Uncheck everything on the Settings.

Next, use your favorite text editor to create an xscreensaver.desktop file in your ~/.config/autostart directory that contains the following five lines:

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[Desktop Entry]
Exec=xscreensaver
Name=XScreenSaver
Type=Application
X-KDE-StartupNotify=false

Then save the file and exit. The next time you reboot, xscreensaver will autostart.

As an added bonus, the following is how you'd change the right-click of your mourse button and selecting Lock Screen.

Open your konsole and su to root.

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# cp /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker.kde
# touch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker
# cat > /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker << EOF
#!/bin/sh
xscreensaver-command -lock
EOF

When you are returned to the # prompt, type chmod a+x /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker .

You should be able to use the right-click > Lock Screen with xscreensaver. The Unlock screen is pretty ugly!

Repeated warning:  In my own personal experience, xscreensaver WILL waste a terrible amount of CPU cycles which can cause CPU temperature to rise. Blank your screen after 5 or 10 minutes of xscreensaver. Use at your own risk.
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 08:30:44 AM »
Archie  you are the man thank you so much. and yeah that screen thing does look ugly like winblows 98 ugly yeesh.  but I got my Pacman back thank goodness. to whom ever started this thread consider this Solved.

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 08:33:43 AM »
Archie  you are the man thank you so much. and yeah that screen thing does look ugly like winblows 98 ugly yeesh.  but I got my Pacman back thank goodness. to whom ever started this thread consider this Solved.

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 08:44:56 AM »
anything that makes work video card and display extra time unnecessarily wasting battery should vanish

lock screen should be what you use always, from the beginning

screensavers are nice but a complete waste of resources
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 10:02:14 AM »
Repeated warning:  In my own personal experience, xscreensaver WILL waste a terrible amount of CPU cycles which can cause CPU temperature to rise. Blank your screen after 5 or 10 minutes of xscreensaver. Use at your own risk.

Thanks for the complete instructions on how to use xscreensaver.  I didn't realize about the waste of CPU cycles and heat rise.  I think I'll just have the monitors switch off to save energy.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 05:26:23 PM »
anything that makes work video card and display extra time unnecessarily wasting battery should vanish

lock screen should be what you use always, from the beginning

screensavers are nice but a complete waste of resources


Riiiiight @T6 lol forgetting the fact that the screen saver does have the Locking-screen-turning-off-monitor Option. ;D

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anything that makes work video card and display extra time unnecessarily wasting battery should vanish

And Yet Winblows is still around,  just saying its your opinion and you're welcome to it lol

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 05:48:59 PM »
"Riiiiight @T6 lol forgetting the fact that the screen saver does have the Locking-screen-turning-off-monitor Option"

yes it has but first it has to run for a minimum of 1 minute and then lock and or turn off monitor, a minute of extra activity wasted, when you are on a laptop, that minute counts

lock screen and then close laptop lid to turn off screen saves your battery from unnecessary use
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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 06:18:04 PM »
The discussion about whether or not running a screensaver is a good thing or not is very interesting but the thread was started as an inquiry as to why opengl screensavers aren't working, nothing more.

I know about xscreensaver but that doesn't answer the original question.

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Re: No opengl screensavers after KDE4.8.3 upgrade
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 06:19:21 PM »
lock screen and then close laptop lid to turn off screen saves your battery from unnecessary use

@T6 ROFL of course you are correct as always (Darn it ;D), but whats the point of having a 6 cell or more battery if you can not use it unnecessarily.  

and besides something on note, leaving the battery in the laptop when its fully charged while plugged in is also bad. It could  cause the battery to lose its potency or the ability to hold a charge over a period of time called a Memory effect.

but again thank you @Archie @T6 and The OP I do hope your question were answered! 
oops just reread above
« Last Edit: August 17, 2012, 06:22:20 PM by GOTHBITES »
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