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What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« on: July 17, 2012, 07:13:58 PM »
Quick question: I want to install the Odesk Team application. It's a project collaboration and time tracking app for online/remote contractors and the people who hire them. They have versions available for Ubuntu (9.04 through 12.1), OpenSUSE 12.1, ArchLinux, Fedora 10 through 16 and Mint Linux (plus a generic, static version.) Which one would be the most compatible with PCLOS?

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2012, 07:23:38 PM »

the link points to a sign in page.

you should probably go with the generic/static version.
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 09:57:29 PM »
All distros are different in one or more ways. Some distros call for <xyz>-dev for their development libs. PCLinuxOS calls these devels. Installing RPMS from another distro is likely to cause breakage on your install.

If the application provides an RPM (or even a source) with all dependencies it needs packaged together then maybe you could but it is the risk you take and the PCLinuxOS forum will not be able to provide you with support. You can instead request that the app be packaged and be included on the PCLinuxOS repository ... provided it meets certain criteria, like for example the app's license.
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 09:35:44 PM »
Quick question: I want to install the Odesk Team application. It's a project collaboration and time tracking app for online/remote contractors and the people who hire them. They have versions available for another distro (9.04 through 12.1), OpenSUSE 12.1, ArchLinux, Fedora 10 through 16 and Mint Linux (plus a generic, static version.) Which one would be the most compatible with PCLOS?

TIA.

https://www.odesk.com/downloads

JayMot.. there is some information here.. https://www.odesk.com/community/node/22510 but the package mentioned in the thread is no longer available on the Odesk website! [The current package is odeskteam_bundle-3.2.55.tar.bz2]

A few months ago I was able to get Odesk Team running on my computer, as a testbed for my sis-in-law's use, after emailing Odesk. They come back confirming the same instructions as shown in the Odesk thread above.

Here is the previous install instructions for PCLinuxOS..

sudo mkdir -p /opt/odesk && sudo tar -C /opt/odesk -jxf odeskteam_bundle-3.2.43.tar.bz2 && /opt/odesk/bin/odeskteam [change the package details]

AFAIK it has worked OK on Sis's Pclos laptop. Use at your own risk!  ;D

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 09:48:45 PM »
Just a friendly reminder that installing binaries from outside repositories waive your rights for forum support. In installing from other sources, you are on your own. If you break your installs, do not ask for support. If you don't know what you should do, best you reinstall.
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 10:34:31 PM »
Just a friendly reminder that installing binaries from outside repositories waive your rights for forum support. In installing from other sources, you are on your own. If you break your installs, do not ask for support. If you don't know what you should do, best you reinstall.

And we don't use sudo.

Here is the previous install instructions for PCLinuxOS..

sudo mkdir -p /opt/odesk && sudo tar -C /opt/odesk -jxf odeskteam_bundle-3.2.43.tar.bz2 && /opt/odesk/bin/odeskteam [change the package details]

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 10:35:07 PM »
Quick question: I want to install the Odesk Team application. It's a project collaboration and time tracking app for online/remote contractors and the people who hire them. They have versions available for another distro (9.04 through 12.1), OpenSUSE 12.1, ArchLinux, Fedora 10 through 16 and Mint Linux (plus a generic, static version.) Which one would be the most compatible with PCLOS?

TIA.

https://www.odesk.com/downloads

JayMot.. there is some information here.. https://www.odesk.com/community/node/22510 but the package mentioned in the thread is no longer available on the Odesk website! [The current package is odeskteam_bundle-3.2.55.tar.bz2]

A few months ago I was able to get Odesk Team running on my computer, as a testbed for my sis-in-law's use, after emailing Odesk. They come back confirming the same instructions as shown in the Odesk thread above.

Here is the previous install instructions for PCLinuxOS..

sudo mkdir -p /opt/odesk && sudo tar -C /opt/odesk -jxf odeskteam_bundle-3.2.43.tar.bz2 && /opt/odesk/bin/odeskteam [change the package details]


AFAIK it has worked OK on Sis's Pclos laptop. Use at your own risk!  ;D



Those are most certainly not the instructions for PCLinuxOS. We do not use sudo in that manner; never have, never will.  :P ???
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 10:49:00 PM »
There will always be the Buntu users amongst our midst. And we just have to keep on schooling them.

sudo is not a shortcut to convenience and/or root access. It is a privilege. If users do not know how to use it properly, don't use it like you know how. It's these examples that give sudo a bad name.

With sudo mkdir, you might as well sudo rm -rf /.

We do not allow these examples of irresponsible use of the command line, and we discourage everyone from doing so unless the user clearly has the grasp.

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 11:12:10 PM »
"you might as well sudo rm -rf /."

is this the legendary command posted in the ubunfantastic forum that deleted everything on the root partition?  ;D
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 11:27:27 PM »
"you might as well sudo rm -rf /."

is this the legendary command posted in the ubunfantastic forum that deleted everything on the root partition?  ;D
     
ROFLMAO!!!!! Yea. That's it.     

Seriously though, just because someone posts somewhere on the web "These are the PCLinuxOS instructions for 'whatever-is-to-be-done'" does not mean that the instructions are accurate. In this particular case, it is clear that the poster knew absolutely nothing about PCLinuxOS.     

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 03:07:35 AM »
Seems this WAS the answer .....

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You can use the statically built binary, download it from here:
http://developers.odesk.com/f/odeskteam_bundle-3.2.43.tar.bz2


......  but the file is no longer there it seems.

Maybe try to find the updated equivalent.

The file might be here
http://developers.odesk.com/w/browse/#view=ViewAllFiles

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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 10:35:44 PM »
Quick question: I want to install the Odesk Team application. It's a project collaboration and time tracking app for online/remote contractors and the people who hire them. They have versions available for another distro (9.04 through 12.1), OpenSUSE 12.1, ArchLinux, Fedora 10 through 16 and Mint Linux (plus a generic, static version.) Which one would be the most compatible with PCLOS?

TIA.

https://www.odesk.com/downloads

JayMot.. there is some information here.. https://www.odesk.com/community/node/22510 but the package mentioned in the thread is no longer available on the Odesk website! [The current package is odeskteam_bundle-3.2.55.tar.bz2]

A few months ago I was able to get Odesk Team running on my computer, as a testbed for my sis-in-law's use, after emailing Odesk. They come back confirming the same instructions as shown in the Odesk thread above.

Here is the previous install instructions for PCLinuxOS..

sudo mkdir -p /opt/odesk && sudo tar -C /opt/odesk -jxf odeskteam_bundle-3.2.43.tar.bz2 && /opt/odesk/bin/odeskteam [change the package details]


AFAIK it has worked OK on Sis's Pclos laptop. Use at your own risk!  ;D



Those are most certainly not the instructions for PCLinuxOS. We do not use sudo in that manner; never have, never will.  :P ???

As the originator of this information perhaps some detail is in order..

1) I understand that sudo is NOT to be used (under normal circumstances)

2) I gifted a laptop to my sister-in-law who lives with her family in what is best described as sheer poverty here in the Philippines

3) Because her preference of windoze on the laptop could not be validated, I installed PCLinuxOS (which was really my intention) to enable her to use her computer skills online and earn some money

4) She needs to be able to use Odesk Team to earn said income

5) Odesk Team is not an approved program - not in the repos - hence no advice for installation here!

6) Omitting sudo did not allow the program to install

7) Odesk referred me to their original instructions

8) Attempted to install Odesk on my spare laptop - installed and ran using sudo !!??!!

9) You are no doubt pleased to hear that Sister-in-law now has work from Odesk and is able to ease their financial burdens!

10) So technicalties and umbrage aside.. this can be marked as "solved" in human terms if not otherwise. People's lives first, huh?  ;)
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 10:49:41 PM »
10) So technicalties and umbrage aside.. this can be marked as "solved" in human terms if not otherwise. People's lives first, huh?  ;)

Absolutely.

The point I want to underline is that (most) other users do not know (nor really care about) how and when sudo is used. Validating it as the "ideal" solution will only add to the growing number of misinformed users. Sudo is not for convenience; it is a privilege.

Pasensya ka na sa mga hindi naman talagang kailangan pangaral. Meron tayong mga tuntunin dapat sundan dito sa forum. Magandang balita ang 9). :)
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 10:51:43 PM »

6) Omitting sudo did not allow the program to install


Run the installation command as root user, instead. In other words, if the instuctions are:

$ sudo run-this-installation-program

do this, instead:

$ su
# run-this-installation-program
# exit
$


The sudo command is designed to give an ordinary user extra privileges in order to accomplish a specialized task that requires those extra privileges. One particular distro uses the sudo command system-wide as a substitute for separation of privileges between the regular users and the root user. That indiscriminate use of sudo is what we object to. It is a sloppy practice that removes one layer of system security and a poor substitute for the traditional UNIX tradition of separation of the superuser's privileges from other users.
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Re: What other distros' apps are compatible with PCLOS?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 11:09:57 PM »
@Archie.. my knowledge is growing.. but slowly..  ;D

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@dj.. thanks also - it was a while ago now and I can't remember what I tried. Now I have the correct answer..  8)

I promise  ::) Iwon't use sudo again.. unless........................  ;)
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