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Offline satuser083

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Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« on: April 20, 2012, 06:52:25 AM »
I'm using libre-office v3.4.5 with gnome-mmxii and am trying to redefine some keyboard-shortcuts. These are Ctrl++ (to zoom in) and Ctrl+- (to zoom out). To do this I selected Tools -> Customise -> Keyboard tab, selected the Ctrl++ entry, then (in the Categories box) View and (in the Function box) Zoom In. Similar for Ctrl+-. Selected OK and tried the commands. No response. Seemed quite a simple process, but I'm clearly doing something wrong  :(. Can anyone help me out?

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2012, 06:54:08 AM »
Don't know directly the answer to your question....

But also possible to press <Ctrl> and scroll with you mouse wheel...  ;) (just suggesting an alternative)

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2012, 07:37:16 AM »
Don't know directly the answer to your question....

But also possible to press <Ctrl> and scroll with you mouse wheel...  ;) (just suggesting an alternative)

Thanks you very much, a far more elegant way of achieving zoom. Just seems a shame that it doesn't work with all apps (e.g. medit); but that's not too important, the latter is not used much, anyway.

Many thanks, once again  :) :D

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2012, 07:38:23 AM »
<Ctrl> Scrollwheel does work in many apps, so it's something you can remember  ;)  (also in browsers, ....)

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2012, 07:43:17 AM »
<Ctrl> Scrollwheel does work in many apps, so it's something you can remember  ;)  (also in browsers, ....)

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 02:29:33 AM »
Is it possible (by altering a parameter, for example) to increase to limit of zoom, via Ctrl+scroll? Currently it stops at too low a level of magnification for my friend. Thanks.

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 02:48:39 AM »
Is it possible (by altering a parameter, for example) to increase to limit of zoom, via Ctrl+scroll? Currently it stops at too low a level of magnification for my friend. Thanks.

LO Writer is zooming to 600% using the Ctrl+Mouse - is that too low?

Edit - make sure Variable is set via

View > Zoom > set the variable radio button (and if required enter a value% in the box - mine goes up to 600%)
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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 03:56:26 AM »
Is it possible (by altering a parameter, for example) to increase to limit of zoom, via Ctrl+scroll? Currently it stops at too low a level of magnification for my friend. Thanks.

LO Writer is zooming to 600% using the Ctrl+Mouse - is that too low?

Edit - make sure Variable is set via

View > Zoom > set the variable radio button (and if required enter a value% in the box - mine goes up to 600%)

Thanks, mine's the same.

I'm clearly not quite understanding something here, because I was hoping that there would be some kind of general-purpose zooming facility, embedded in the core, perhaps, which applies to all windows. Rather like that used on the Mac (at least, that's what I understand to be the case  ::) ). Looks like it's more app-dependent. If that's the case, seems like what I want is impossible in linux. Pity.

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 06:34:17 AM »
satuser083,

One used to be able to increase the size of everything by changing the screen resolution on the fly with CTRL+ALT++ or CTRL+Alt+-. The shortcuts would circle through all the resolutions specified for your current colour depth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

On the other hand, magnifying everything on the screen by lowering the resolution is a very bad idea these days: on a flat-screen display anything but the monitor's native resolution will give you a less sharp picture.

But CTRL+ALT++ and CTRL+Alt+- still work on my KDE display, sort of. It's just that they only toggle between two resolutions ignoring the settings in xorg.conf. Perhaps they work better in Gnome - they used to work independently of the DE.

(In KDE there is a desktop effect that lets you zoom in the whole screen. I'm certain there must be something similar in Gnome.)

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 07:39:29 AM »
Thanks.

One used to be able to increase the size of everything by changing the screen resolution on the fly with CTRL+ALT++ or CTRL+Alt+-. The shortcuts would circle through all the resolutions specified for your current colour depth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

On my gnome it's the Ctrl++/Ctrl+- combination(s) which zoom in/out, but that only works with certain apps (e.g. it does with lo-writer and firefox but doesn't with medit). And it also only provides 6 levels of zoom, which is the same as Ctrl+Scroll-wheel - too few for my requirements (assume these are the resolutions you referred to).

On the other hand, magnifying everything on the screen by lowering the resolution is a very bad idea these days: on a flat-screen display anything but the monitor's native resolution will give you a less sharp picture.

I agree, but my friend is very severely sight-impared, so some loss of sharpness is something she's prepared to accept if it helps being able to read at all.

I'll keep looking, perhaps I can find some other solution.

Thanks, once again  :) .

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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 11:24:28 AM »
Thanks.

One used to be able to increase the size of everything by changing the screen resolution on the fly with CTRL+ALT++ or CTRL+Alt+-. The shortcuts would circle through all the resolutions specified for your current colour depth in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

On my gnome it's the Ctrl++/Ctrl+- combination(s) which zoom in/out, but that only works with certain apps (e.g. it does with lo-writer and firefox but doesn't with medit). And it also only provides 6 levels of zoom, which is the same as Ctrl+Scroll-wheel - too few for my requirements (assume these are the resolutions you referred to).

No, they are not. CTRL++ zooms in without changing the screen resolution, so it does not reduce sharpness of the display, but it only works in some programs, and it only changes the resolution of one window at a time.

CTRL+ALT++ zooms in by changing the resolution of the whole screen; it makes everything larger and blurrier. And it does work in Gnome too - but not well enough. (I had to install Gnome just to check. It works precisely as in KDE, but the resolutions it toggles between won't serve your purpose. You need a much larger zoom factor.)

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On the other hand, magnifying everything on the screen by lowering the resolution is a very bad idea these days: on a flat-screen display anything but the monitor's native resolution will give you a less sharp picture.

I agree, but my friend is very severely sight-impared, so some loss of sharpness is something she's prepared to accept if it helps being able to read at all.

I'll keep looking, perhaps I can find some other solution.

Thanks, once again  :) .

I think you should first of all change all default font sizes. But as I don't run Gnome I cannot really help you here. I know how to change some of them, but I don't know how to change all of them.

You could begin by starting the Gnome configuration editor; then navigate to /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name, and change the value from the default "Sans 10" to "Sans 40". And then you could do the same thing to document_font_name. And after that? To continue you may need the help of somebody who really uses Gnome.
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Re: Help needed with LO keyboard-shortcuts
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2012, 07:33:35 AM »
Sorry for the delay with this reply, BB, just forgot  :( . Still continuing with this problem, many thanks for your help  :) :D

Cheers.