KDE4 adjustments

[linuxsnow]

I've accidentally moved the system tray and clock over the the LHS of the bottom panel and they won't drag back to the RHS and stay - how do I get them back?


Also, I'd like to unclutter the desktop by putting some of the files and shortcuts I have in a mini menu on the panel next to the system tray when I get it moved back to the RHS

Anyone know how can add a mini menu? What in Win XP is called a task-bar.   

[T6]

in linux we call it the same 

in your desktop wallpaper right click/unlock widgets

in the taskbar right click/panel options/panel settings

this will enable the tools to modify the taskbar, when you move the mouse cursor over each object you can move it or delete it, depending on where you moved the objects

if the objects are outside the taskbar, under it, move temporarily the taskbar to another side of the screen on that same menu i mentioned in the option screen edge

to add another taskbar, in the taskbar, after unlocked it, panel options/add panel/empty panel

put it wherever you need it and add the elements you need, it is more simple to put links there that are already on the start menu so create a start button on this new taskbar and form that menu just add them, for files, i never done it, some users just add a widget called folder view

this is how it looks after i did all you mentioned



my taskbar is actually two taskbars, the one in the left contains some things and the other my most used apps and the system notifications, i removed the clock to use that widget you see in the desktop, both taskbars are set to autohide to gain space in this small netbook screen

[Tony]

Edit: OOPS, T6 beat me to it  


Just slide them back linuxsnow, making sure the'Panel' (Taskbar thingo) is unlocked.
Then:
Right-click on the Panel > Panel options > Panel Settings > More Settings > Click on 'Maximise Panel'.

Go through the 'Smooth Task Settings' also, carefully.

As you may have noted, it is care that will get your system tray and clock over to the RHS.
If you've had enough fun, in Panel Options, (path above) select " Lock Widgets".

As these things are by nature , 'Intuitive', Right Click the round PC Button on your far left and select 'Edit Applications', you should be able to unclutter the Desktop, and organise the Applications Menu to your liking from there, after going to HELP and reading The KDE Menu Editor Handbook.

Hope that gets you on your way.

[Bald Brick]

linuxsnow,

T6 and Abraxas may have given you all the answers you need, but somehow I felt their answers were not complete. So:


1)
In the good old days a very few years ago Windows users talked about the "taskbar" when they meant the whole main panel on the desktop. Linux users reserved the word for what is nowadays called a "task manager". In a current KDE version of PCLinuxOS that would typically be the "Smooth Tasks" panel widget.

Today Windows has won: the "taskbar" has taken on the Windows meaning in Linux too.


2)
It is quite true that you can move icons on the panel by dragging them if you first unlock the widgets and then click the panel cashew. But you can actually only move them in relation to each other. And they will all stack up from the left. So the icon that you drag as far right as possible may end up as your most right-hand one of all the icon to the left and still be far from the right edge of the panel.


3)
To achieve what you want you have to precede your icon with spacers or widgets that fill up all the empty space available. "Smooth Tasks" is the most popular one that serves this purpose. Whatever you drag to the right of it goes as far right as it can (considering everything else that you've dragged to the right of "Smooth Tasks"). You can achieve the same thing by tweaking the spacers.


4)
As for your mini-menu, check the available widgets. There must be one that does what you want. (For the last twenty years I've only used Windows under gunpoint so I don't really know what you want to achieve. But if you can do it in Windows, you can do it in Linux. Except watching Silverlight videos.)

[T6]

linuxsnow,

T6 and Abraxas may have given you all the answers you need, but somehow I felt their answers were not complete. So:

at least from my part, i think you are right 

[aguila]

Here's my setup:

I put the "taskbar" panel at the top, from left to right:

notifications widget, virtual desktops widget, spacer, smooth tasks widget, spacer, cwp widget, update notifier, system controls widget, login/logout widget, clock widget

On the bottom, i put another panel on autohide, with some program starters, char table, virtual keyboard, show desktop widget, menu widget (center), quick access widget (right to menu button), and more program starters



In the menu I put the most used programs in favorites. You can enlarge the menu by dragging the edge:



HTH,

aguila

[Tony]

Bald Brick :

linuxsnow,

T6 and Abraxas may have given you all the answers you need, but somehow I felt their answers were not complete.

I was just guessing to be honest 

[Just17]

I think I am even more confused 

I thought I had

a panel on the bottom which contained everything (by default)

to the right, just before the clock widget, is what I refer to as the 'tray' ....  that section which holds such icons as kmix, netapplet etc

also on the panel is the task manager (smooth tasks)

On the left of the panel are some icons related to system functionality (default)

I have additionally added launch icons of my own choice, as well as a link to a folder which contains launch icons which I use most often.

I have no idea how to rearrange or add icons to the 'tray' (as I called it above) ... that is within the specified confines of that area.
Everything outside of that seems to be easily adjustable.

After reading that you should all be as confused as I am 

[gseaman]

I have no idea how to rearrange or add icons to the 'tray' (as I called it above) ... that is within the specified confines of that area.

Kdocker let's you put anything in the tray, but items in the tray seem to arrange and rearrange themselves at random.

Galen

[T6]

that widget is called system tray

you can add it or remove it but ignore if there is a way to move the icons contained in it

it shows apps that can be put there like deadbeef, opera between other and apps that you might like to see there, you can edit it when you are in taskbar edition mode, hover the mouse over it and right click/system tray settings, it doesn't offer a way to rearrange but it does offer what to show from a small list

i don't use smooth tasks, i don't like how it behaves, i use task manager that behaves similar to windows, something i like

[Archie]

I haven't really given the arrangement of the icons on the system tray much thought but I would guess that they are arranged in the order of their launch.

[T6]

that is possible, it seems that battery, audio mixer, clipboard and wifi signal are the first to load and remains first there

maybe it has a list of more important first and less important later?

[Just17]

Putting aside the order in which the icons display in the tray, I have found no method of adding an item of my choice to the tray.
Some applications appear to provide a means to do so, but most do not apparently.

[aguila]

for most info you can use Widgets and put them in the panel like knemo (left of the tray in my top panel) or the notifications widget which I put on the left while disabling it in the panel.

[gseaman]

Putting aside the order in which the icons display in the tray, I have found no method of adding an item of my choice to the tray.
Some applications appear to provide a means to do so, but most do not apparently.

If you want to do this, try kdocker. It works.

Galen