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Offline cyrwyn

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Random lockups - hardware or software?
« on: June 06, 2012, 09:04:24 AM »
My Toshiba laptop has had a few random lockups in the past month, usually when either moving the pointer or clicking on a link in Firefox. But it's not always in Firefox, it might be email or something else. I've been able to successfully to shut down cleanly by using Alt + SysRq reisub routine, sometimes as much as 3 times before the computer would respond. With this in mind I assume that the kernel is still running and that this is probably a software problem. Am I right in that assumption? Could this be a video driver problem?

My pute is fully updated. Using kernel 2.6.38.8-pclos1.a64,  KDE. Video chip is AMD/ATI 4100 using latest Catalyst driver from pclos repository. 3 MB memory. Neither memory or HD space is taxed.
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 09:45:55 AM »
First thing I would check is the memory (memtest)

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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2012, 09:49:44 AM »
i think your assumption is correct if the system responds to the keyboard but you have to make more tests first

you have the previous kernel, pclos1, you can install 2.6.38.8-pclos3

how much ram do you have?

since you mention flrefox, any flash videos were opened?  maybe disable hardware acceleration in flash
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 09:26:59 AM »
3MB ram. No flash videos were opened at the times the lockups occurred. Flash plays OK. I might try the newer kernel and run memtest.
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 09:47:13 AM »
3mb or 3gb?

talking of video card ram or system ram
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 02:33:36 AM »
3MB ram. No flash videos were opened at the times the lockups occurred. Flash plays OK. I might try the newer kernel and run memtest.

I don't think "newer kernel" as the system seems to work well before it hangs.... Memtest!  ;D

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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 08:29:09 AM »
Yes, 3GB system mem.
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 08:30:31 PM »
Yes, 3GB system mem.


Yes, understood but it is not clear to me is: did you test it? (Did you run memtest?)

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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 08:32:14 PM »
kernel?
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Re: Random lockups - hardware or software?
« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 10:39:00 PM »
Did you make any changes to the system prior to these lock-ups starting?

In addition to memtest, I'd suggest running a check on your hard drive, or at the very least checking the SMART diagnostics on it.  A couple bad sectors can cause similar symptoms to bad memory.

Have you cleaned out the vents on the laptop recently?  Thermal events can cause lock-ups, too, but in that case I would expect a total shutdown more than anything else.

What wireless drivers are you using?

Assuming your hardware checks out okay then I would definitely try another kernel, not just newer but you might also try one of the non-a64 kernels.  I run almost exclusively AMD processors, but have run non-a64 kernels more often than not.