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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 12:55:15 PM »
Is PCL the only rolling distro? Can others be updated in bits and pieces?
     
You should not update "in bits and pieces." A full update is always recommended.     
You only update the 'bits and pieces' you have installed that have changed.  I think that's what he was saying.  Full install not needed.

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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2012, 01:29:50 PM »
Is PCL the only rolling distro? Can others be updated in bits and pieces?
     
You should not update "in bits and pieces." A full update is always recommended.     
You only update the 'bits and pieces' you have installed that have changed.  I think that's what he was saying.  Full install not needed.

Yes, that is correct!
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2012, 08:29:33 PM »
Is PCL the only rolling distro? Can others be updated in bits and pieces?
   
You should not update "in bits and pieces." A full update is always recommended.    
You only update the 'bits and pieces' you have installed that have changed.  I think that's what he was saying.  Full install not needed.

Yes, that is correct!

A full update does indeed only apply changes to what is installed.

In a traditional environment, only the applications and their libraries and such are considered "installed".  

A rolling release is different in that one of the things that is considered "installed" IS the operating system.

This means that when you do a "full update" if changes have been made to the operating system, they are updated as you go, on the fly.

Other distros save all these changes up and then do a "Release" of the new changes. That release is in the form of a brand new .ISO that then requires the user to do a full new install from scratch to get the changes implemented.

Our "Releases" on the other hand, are simply an ISO that contains all the changes that have been made since the last "Release".

Changes that should already be in place on an install with regular "Full" updates.

This simply saves the user time (for the most part) from having to download a million updates from an iso that is more than a year or so old.


TMI? Perhaps, but not worthless.
 
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 03:11:53 PM »
A rolling release is different in that one of the things that is considered "installed" IS the operation system.

This means that when you do a "full update" if changes have been made to the operation system, they are updated as you go, on the fly.

Other distros save all these changes up and then do a "Release" of the new changes. That release is in the form of a brand new .ISO that then requires the user to do a full new install from scratch to get the changes implemented.

TMI? Perhaps, but not worthless. ;)

YES! That is exactly what I was trying say. ;D  I wondered about the brand new ISO that requires a brand-new, full install to get the updates. And I wanted to know if other distros also brought out rolling updates.

I want to stay with PCL, but if things happen then I want to get something close.
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 03:16:35 PM »
Hello George,

In years I have tried many distros, please do not look more, PCLinuxOS is the one!  ;D
If you like a super full, you download KDE, a fast and clean, the LXDE which is the one I use to Host my virtual Machines, and a mini compact, super efficient: the Open Box, that I carry when I am traveling.

But boys I was looking the download for OpenBox from Melody and I have not found it, What happened with the OpenBox version of PCLinuxOS?
Sorry if I missed something, too much stuff to digest my mind this days.
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2012, 05:32:10 PM »
8 FM For Lin:
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/8-great-alternative-desktop-managers-for-linux/

(I may switch to enlightenment)

Is it possible to have multi-FM installed so you can switch between them? I'm guessing no... ???
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2012, 07:54:51 PM »

But boys I was looking the download for OpenBox from Melody and I have not found it, What happened with the OpenBox version of PCLinuxOS?
Sorry if I missed something, too much stuff to digest my mind this days.


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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 09:38:40 AM »
Is it possible to have multi-FM installed so you can switch between them? I'm guessing no... ???

FM? You mean Desktops? You guess wrong. Add as many as you like through the appropriate task package via Synaptic. At the login screen, you can choose which you log in to.     

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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2012, 11:28:16 AM »
Is it possible to have multi-FM installed so you can switch between them? I'm guessing no... ???

FM? You mean Desktops? You guess wrong. Add as many as you like through the appropriate task package via Synaptic. At the login screen, you can choose which you log in to.     

Not sure...  ??? I'm not familiar with the terms.

Can I have KDE, LXDE, GNOME, and ENLIGHTENMENT all on the same system and just switch between them at start-up?
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2012, 12:21:34 PM »
Can I have KDE, LXDE, GNOME, and ENLIGHTENMENT all on the same system and just switch between them at start-up?

Yes.
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2012, 12:30:51 PM »
Can I have KDE, LXDE, GNOME, and ENLIGHTENMENT all on the same system and just switch between them at start-up?

Yes.


I didn't think that was possible. Where can I find instructions on how to do this???
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2012, 12:55:24 PM »
Can I have KDE, LXDE, GNOME, and ENLIGHTENMENT all on the same system and just switch between them at start-up?

Yes.


I didn't think that was possible. Where can I find instructions on how to do this???

If you are running KDE, just install the meta-packages task-lxde and task-enlightenment with Synaptic and you'll be able to log in to lxde or enlightenment.

If you aren't running KDE, try installing task-kde4-minimal.

There doesn't seem to be a task package for Gnome at the moment, but if you install gnome-desktop or gnome-desktop3 that should probably bring in enough packages to run Gnome.

Edit:

I was posting the above from my test setup. For the stable version of PCLinuxOS there is both a task-gnome and a task-gnome-minimal.

You have to click "Session Type" at the login screen to choose your desktop environment.
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Re: Rolling Your Own
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2012, 01:21:59 PM »
Thanx!
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