Number of KDE-mini systems nVidia problems

[uggy]

Have you tried XFdrake with different module? I know my card diff to yours, but in use:

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Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    VendorName "nVidia Corporation"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 400 series and later"        <------------------------------
    Driver "nvidia"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"
    Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
EndSection

uggy

[wedgetail]

uggy
No, I have considered it. This could be a way to fool nouveau if it will work. I will uninstall nouveau once more and also just check lspci -vvn 01:00 (on my system). Thanks for the suggestion it has taken me out of going around in the same circle, which was starting to get a bit boring.  I will pop back in this post and add the result.  

Edit:

Not entirely surprised it did not work.  I did not try to remove nouveau, nouveau blacklisting also left in place.  Then went directly to XFdrake and selected the "GeForce 400 series and later".  (Did not opt for proprietary option, which I think would have left me with nouveau)

[gert@KDE-mini-kernel3x ~]$ lspci -vnn -s 01:00
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] [10de:0622] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
.................................
        Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau

Notice above that I only the red line, there should be two lines under the dotted line.

I have a Vesa looking screen, which I then found confirmed later in the quote below from

/etc/X11/xorg.conf
Section "Device"
    Identifier "device1"
    BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 400 series and later"
    Driver "vesa"
    Option "DPMS"
EndSection       

Ok, nouveau is still laughing at me. 

[wedgetail]

This time, nouveau removed vis Synaptic and I am running "Vesa" when in root konsole I use XFdrake

[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]# XFdrake ---> GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360 ---> no to proprietary but

Get:1 http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010 release [2888B]
Fetched 2888B in 0s (9878B/s)
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/main pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/main release
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/updates pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/updates release
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/nonfree pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/nonfree release
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/kde4 pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/kde4 release
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/games pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/games release
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/testing pkglist
Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au pclinuxos/2010/testing release
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
   libdri-drivers-experimental (7.11.2-1pclos2011)
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   libdri-drivers-experimental (7.11.2-1pclos2011)
   x11-driver-video-nouveau (0.0.16-0.20110613.5pclos2011)
0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 removed and 11 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/4195kB of archives.
After unpacking 14.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
Committing changes...
Preparing                                ############################## [100%]
Updating / installing
  libdri-drivers-experimental-7.11.2-1pc ############################## [100%]
  x11-driver-video-nouveau-0.0.16-0.2011 ############################## [100%]
Done.
Using `/etc/ld.so.conf.d/GL/standard.conf' to provide `gl_conf'.
[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]#

Despite nouveau blacklisting still in place, I am again the owner of the nouveau.

I have had this several times in other attempts as well.

The GeForce 400 and later is not suitable for my card, I get a bit concerned about the artifacts during reboot sequence.  The mouse pointer is a bit erratic too. So I may be back on Xorg.nv again as it is the best of not so good so far.

[uggy]

Sorry that didn't work for you, I'm out of ideas.

Your card not too far ahead of mine.

Mine(8400GS) wont work with 6100 - 360. 

Hope you get it sorted though,  you might have to get back on the roundabout.

uggy

[Just17]

XFdrake ---> GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360 ---> no to proprietary

I am unsure what you were trying to achieve here.

You select to use a GeForce driver, and then further limit that selection by refusing the Nvidia Proprietary driver ........  so the only one left is the nouveau driver which gets installed.

What driver did you expect to be in use after going through the above?

[wedgetail]

uggy
This is linux, you take it on the chin but make sure you have fun.  I would like to discover the mechanism that causes nouveau to get a foot in the door.  We will see how it goes.

We could check your card out against mine in some more detail. Do a lspci on you card, and identify your VGA card, I will show you.

[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset DRAM Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 2 (rev 01)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family PCI Express Port 4 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev e1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR (ICH7 Family) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation N10/ICH7 Family SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)
04:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Micronas Semiconductor Holding AG nGene PCI-Express Multimedia Controller
05:02.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2561/RT61 rev B 802.11g
[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]#

Then you take the red section in above and expand the lspci to:

[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]# lspci -vvn -s 01:00.0
01:00.0 0300: 10de:0622 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: 1019:10a9
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
        Region 0: Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Region 1: Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Region 3: Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Region 5: I/O ports at dc00 [size=128]
        Expansion ROM at fe880000 [disabled] [size=512K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [78] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <512ns, L1 <4us
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <512ns, L1 <1us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Virtual Channel
                Caps:   LPEVC=0 RefClk=100ns PATEntryBits=1
                Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128-
                Ctrl:   ArbSelect=Fixed
                Status: InProgress-
                VC0:    Caps:   PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
                        Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
                        Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=01
                        Status: NegoPending- InProgress-
        Capabilities: [128 v1] Power Budgeting <?>
        Capabilities: [600 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
       Kernel driver in use: nouveau
        Kernel modules: nvidiafb, nouveau

[root@KDE-mini-kernel3x gert]#

If your card is identical or close to above, then there might have been a chance for same drivers work

[wedgetail]

Just18
A bit of minor short hand here.  I will expand a bit

OK, for all costs nouveau must be avoided on my system if I am to have success getting either 173.x or the 290.x installed, any smell of nouveau and I can forget it.

I remove (not totally and that perhaps is a mistake) nouveau via Synaptic and double check it is gone. Then I reboot and since I probably was running nouveau I get booted into a text login.

When that happens I log in as root and use XFdrake again in text mode, the crummy looking one 
Select my  GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360 (which is the one for my card when I can get to run), again offered the proprietary solution.
Her I know with 100% certainty that if I accept that nouveau will be installed but I don't know what I may get if I decline the offer.
There is some switching that falls down when you try to go back and force between nvidia and nouveau but the details are still beyond me.

I am not sure how many systems I have it running successfully with Synaptic nvidia, mainly the 173.x but also the 190.x I fixed a couple of days ago. With nouveau removed here I managed to break the cycle by detouring via Xorg.vesa and when Vesa running I installed via XFdrake  GeForce 6100 to GeForce 360 declined the proprietary (knowing I would get nouveau) and since there was only the 173.x and 190.x left, well I actually got the 190.x.

Have been unable to repeat the success here in kernel-3.2.15-pclos1 and the success was a kernel-2.6.38.x, unfortunately there was a dkms minor change difference which may account for my lockout (wild guess)   

I thought I picked up a website where there was some talk about nouveau getting into one of the init files, but silly me did not make a record as I thought it unlikely I needed to follow up on that.

[Just17]

declined the proprietary (knowing I would get nouveau)

This is the bit that confused me.

How about trying this .....  boot using Vesa ......  in PCC accept the proprietary driver for your card .......  now before you reboot search Synaptic for nouveau and uninstall the (3?) packages that may be installed (or maybe none  )
Check by searching by name, nvidia, that the nvidia proprietary drivers are installed.

Now reboot and see if it is using the nvidia driver .....

[uggy]

I post what you asked for. Probably not of any use to you tho.

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[root@localhost ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690 Host Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Graphics Port 0)
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.1 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[root@localhost ~]#

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[root@localhost ~]# lspci -vvn -s 01:00.0
01:00.0 0300: 10de:10c3 (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: 196e:080a
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
        Region 0: Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Region 1: Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Region 3: Memory at ce000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Region 5: I/O ports at e800 [size=128]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at feb80000 [disabled] [size=512K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 0000000000000000  Data: 0000
        Capabilities: [78] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <64us
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Latency L0 <512ns, L1 <4us
                        ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- Retrain- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM+ AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis+
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-, Selectable De-emphasis: -6dB
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
                         Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB
        Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Virtual Channel
                Caps:   LPEVC=0 RefClk=100ns PATEntryBits=1
                Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128-
                Ctrl:   ArbSelect=Fixed
                Status: InProgress-
                VC0:    Caps:   PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
                        Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
                        Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=ff
                        Status: NegoPending- InProgress-
        Capabilities: [128 v1] Power Budgeting <?>
        Capabilities: [600 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: nvidia
        Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb, nvidia-current, nvidia96xx, nvidia173

[root@localhost ~]#
uggy